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How do you call a Seal with a hole?

 
 
fansy
 
Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 08:10 pm
Here is a Seal (official or personal) with a hole so that a cord may go through it for holding. How do you call this kind of Seal with a hole?
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 08:16 pm
@fansy,
Is this what you are trying to describe?

http://cdn.nationalnotary.org/site/notary_seal_stamps_and_embossers.png
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 08:20 pm
@fansy,
Or perhaps this is what you are describing? These are used to place a wax seal on documents or envelopes using melted sealing wax.

http://www.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0/cb/3/AAAAC1yg3g4AAAAAAMswHQ.jpg?v=1274292825000
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boomerang
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 08:24 pm
@fansy,
A medallion?

Quote:
me·dal·lionNoun/məˈdalyən/
1. A piece of jewelry in the shape of a medal, typically worn as a pendant.
2. An oval or circular painting, panel, or design used for decoration.


http://images.beijing-2008.org/20070529/Img214083198.jpg
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wayne
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 09:27 pm
Portable
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 30 Aug, 2011 10:43 pm
@fansy,
How do you call a Seal with a hole?

When we use 'call' we don't tend to use 'how', Fansy. This holds a meaning like,

A: How do you call your kids for lunch?

B: I just yell out the back door for them unless they have gone to the park, then I use that dinner bell hanging from the porch.

You can say,

How do you say this word/that thing that [describe the thing]?

It should be,

What do you call a Seal with a hole?
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 02:50 am
@fansy,

It hasn't got a special name, to my knowledge.

I wouldn't write it with a capital S, btw.

Wax seals are very old-fashioned, and only of historical relevance, I think.
(The seal makes a unique imprint in the hot wax. Some dignitaries used a signet ring for this purpose.)
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 05:28 am
@fansy,
What do you call a seal with a hole? Eskimo bait . . .

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/235/weddelllast8gi.jpg
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fansy
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 06:06 am
@Butrflynet,
Please teach me to insert a picture so that you will know what I mean.
McTag
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 06:32 am
@fansy,

Like this

http://futureloveparadise.co.uk/images/seal-hits.jpg
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PUNKEY
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 06:33 am
Is this a medal?

A piece of jewelry?

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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 02:29 pm
@fansy,
fansy wrote:

Please teach me to insert a picture so that you will know what I mean.



1) Go to the webpage where your picture is located.

2) Right-click on the picture and select "Properties".

3) Copy the URL in the properties box. Then Paste the URL on your post on A2K. Highlight the pasted URL and click the IMG button to surround the url with the IMG code.

Remember that you should not copy the address of the page that displays the image but rather the address of the image itself. One way to tell that you've done it right is the last few characters of the address. It should have the filetype extension of an image file (something like .jpg or .gif).

McTag
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 03:42 pm

Hey, I found this:

http://www.historicwaxcraft.com/aboutseals.php

and this:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1T4SUNA_enGB310GB310&q=historic+wax+seals&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=556
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fansy
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 07:53 pm
@Butrflynet,
I should thank Butrflynet for help.
The following are the images I have found on the internet. They are seals with holes of various designs, you may put a cord through the hole for holding purpose or decoration. I'd like to know if you have an English term to name such holes.

http://pic2.997788.com/mini/shopstation/picture/HD/00/0000/000044/HD00004413a.jpg

http://imgmall.artxun.com/thumb_imgs/201108/19/gallery_707425_420_420.jpghttp://attach.scimg.cn/month_1108/14/992eaa609d2790e59fc56667c5ce65f4_thumb.jpghttp://www.shuobao.com/web/Member/Upload/2011/01/17/Gucn_68571_200962116103644CheckCurioPic1.jpghttp://www.yelishoucang.com/upload/2010-9/Fl201009101731536021.JPG
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 08:44 pm
@fansy,
Are you referring to what the Japanese call 'hanko', Fansy. In Japan, it's used to "sign" official documents, contracts, etc instead of a handwritten signature. Is this also something all adults in China [in other Se Asian countries?] use as their signatures?
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boomerang
 
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Reply Wed 31 Aug, 2011 08:47 pm
You just need the word for the hole, not the object, right?

I think the best word to use might be "eyelet".
Quote:

eye·let (lt)
n.
1.
a. A small hole or perforation, usually rimmed with metal, cord, fabric, or leather, used for fastening with a cord or hook.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 01:43 am
@fansy,

There is no English word I know of which is commonly used to describe such "holes".

"Loop" is maybe better than "eyelet". An eyelet is usually found in a fabric, i.e. something without appreciable thickness.

Fansy, look up "stamp" to compare with "seal". A stamp uses ink, while a seal is used to make an impression in wax. At least one of your pictures shows what appears to be a stamp.
They are nevertheless used in similar ways.
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 02:02 am
What you are referring to is called a "chop" in English.

From The Free Dictionary-dot-com:

Quote:
chop
n.

1. An official stamp or permit in the Far East.
2.
a. A mark stamped on goods or coins to indicate their identity or quality.
b. Quality; class: first chop.


From Dictionary-dot-com:

Quote:
chop

noun

1.
an official stamp or seal, or a permit or clearance, especially as formerly used in India and China.
2.
a design, corresponding to a brand or trademark, stamped on goods to indicate their identity or quality.
3.
the signature stamp of an artist, printmaker, etc., testifying to the authenticity of a work.


From Answers-dot-com, quoting Wikipedia:

Quote:
Seal (East Asia), or "chop" colloquially, used in China, Japan and other parts of East Asia to prove identity (typically on documents or art in East Asia)


Note the use of the synonym "seal" in that last definition. None of these definitions, however, define the object being used to create the seals impression as a chop. However, when i lived in Korea, the object itself which was used to create the stamp or seal was also called a chop. One might say: "He couldn't sign the document, because he didn't have his chop with him." This is a sufficiently obscure use of the word chop that i have not been able to find a definition online to confirm this for you, but i assure you that the item shown in your images is called a chop.

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fansy
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 02:37 am
@McTag,
Yah, it is called a chop. But I'd like you to give me a word to indicate the "hole", "eyelet" or "loop" --many of them look like animals or other things for decorotive purposes--the Chinese word is 钮, which in one sense, means "the nose of a seal/stamp" for tying this object with a cord. As you may see from the first photo, it is so "thin" that one has to hold the 钮 (nose) in hand for making an impression with the seal or stamp. By the way, we Chinese speakers of English do not pay much attention to the difference between a seal and a stamp. I myself may say "I used my private seal for making a stamp impression on a painint."
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Thu 1 Sep, 2011 02:48 am
I really don't think that there is a specific word for that hole in English.
 

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