Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

You deserved that response.

Atheists may be part of gangs that do evil. They may also not be.
Christians, on the other hand, are by the very definition of being a Christian, part of a gang that does and has done great evil.

I am not trying to be hateful either, but informative...and from my perceptions, (personally) Izzy offers more to me, than Bill does...You on the other hand may have an entirely different perception...which is comendable...

( take notes, and listen carefully Setanta!!)

That is silly as there is no atheists gangs running around and most members of gangs are of the same religion breakdown of the rest of the areas they come from.

By the way, i wanted to congratulate you on your war with Voice--first class entertainment.

I'm relatively certain that there are no "atheist gangs" at least with the meaning you apply to "gang". I don't doubt that there are atheists who participate in criminal activities, but it's not because of atheism that they perform these acts.

To state otherwise would be to also claim that a person suddenly decides to rape and murder because they don't collect stamps. A person actions aren't defined by what they don't believe, but by what they do believe.

Atheism is simply the absence of belief in a deity, nothing more, nothing less. Theism is flawed and causes unnecessary harm and is (for the most part) the source reason in which many immoral actions and bigotry come from, atheism is not. Atheism doesn't teach people to have bigoted opinions against those which are different from us.

Atheism doesn't teach people to kill others who think differently than we do...theism does this.

Since you're sensitive on this topic I'll also state that all religions don't only cause harm, just that harm can and often does come from these beliefs. Good deeds come from religion as well but why accept something that sometimes does good when it has so many unnecessary negative implications?

Especially when there is no reason in believing in what is claimed as the reasons for participating in these flawed ideologies (heaven, afterlife, etc.)

and if more theists did this, I think a lot of atheists would learn, and realize rather quickly, the feeling is very unpleasant to say the least...

You got to be kidding me given that atheists had been the subject of all manners of hate and personal attacks by the religion communities in the US.

I don't see much theists attacking atheists...and more focusing in on being a better human for humanity, and working to better themselves and others...

Damn right I want several hundred thousand years in heaven. Five heavenly minutes would be easy to fake, but if I can cope with anything for several hundred thousand years without screaming for the release of death then it must be heaven, or as near as I can imagine.

Heaven is real shows your far from your path there right now and have little faith....

You're the one who made this a matter of personal slurs and acrimony. You have asked a question of those who do or do not doubt christianity. You invited people who are not christians, who don't believe in christianity here, and now you're whining about ridiculous **** such as atheist gangs, and claiming there are atheist gangs online. Well, hell, Bubba, you invited atheists here, and now you're whining about atheists "gangs?" You have been hostile since page one. The first person to respond to you happens to be a Jew, and you got nasty with him right away, simply because he doesn't take your Jesus bullshit seriously. Do you not understand, all these pages later, that attempting to frame any discussion with atheists in terms of "god" and "Jesus" is hilariously idiotic precisely because atheists don't believe in a god? You are so clueless . . .

Did you not ask a question ? In your last post you refer to reading your first page.

The question was what we would ask in order to prove there was a Jesus.

Your continuation is arguementive of your beliefs verse others or their comedy cause they can.

My question to you, is why are you not interested in your original question?

Did you actually start the thread to speak of your own mind, thoughts,
beliefs to others?

You won't get several hundreds, thousand, years in heaven as you put it. Note how 100 years later we can pull photos of someone that looks like someone in the now? I'm betting there may actually be a thing as re-incarnation if you believe in God that is...

I have experienced near death a couple of times... Google and I agree it's like this video of your life being shown to you but there is no fear.

Again you posed a question yet you are preaching.

Heaven is real to those whom believe... Heaven is not real to those whom don't.

One thing I am sure of... Is that guiding people is a better way than preaching as if you are God... That he would not ever accept... Now would he, as he is power, the one... If that be the case, you are doing bad here, not good.

And in my opinion, we are here to accept people for who they are is that not their beliefs as well ? Yet you are doing a really good job at cutting and pasting those and making them feel that they are not worthy of even being...

You need to re-think your position..

The Bible I've said a million times has changed, throughout the centuries as it is man who types, not "written words" but a book... And so he changes to suit him look at the Churches that make so much money out of people like you, donating 10% of your earnings.... Robin Hood was a better bet.

And, look at what they own, their businesses, their land, their houses...

The Bible is not all it seems..

What you believe inside from taking in from everywhere is what it seems.

If people are disagreeing with you, they can hardly be said to accept your views. You have some language problems as well as perception problems.

By the way, if you can't properly manage the quote function, leave it alone. You make it look as though you have written the first sentence in my post which you quoted. You also don't need to bold-face sentences from my posts--i'm not the one who does the shouting around here--that's you.