Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

@XXSpadeMasterXX,

The guy is seriously enfeebled. Modern Popes can't afford that.

@spendius,

spendius wrote:

For example--a youngish lady appeared on our TV tonight who had taken out a second mortgage in order to offer a reward for her lost dog. £10 grand.

No evidence was offered that she ever had a dog or that she had taken out a mortgage.

Just like the Bible story's...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

I do not have to do any of that to reach these ecstatic states...All I have to do is contemplate God's existence, and anything I wish to ask...For hours on end...And when I contemplate so long and so deep that I can not perceive any further than I have or am physically able too...I have no desire to go any further anyways....And all my questions are answered...I have no reason to perpetrate a false ecstatic state of mind...because if I did, I would not contemplate for hours for a few unspeakable seconds...

Think I got it igm...

Do not know how one would experience this feeling without God being the focal point though...

That's why drugs are so popular, not saying your on drugs... but perhaps it's the same feeling that druggies get, going by what druggies say.

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@tenderfoot,

Well since I do not take drugs...Please explain to me what druggies have told you they experience?

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@spendius,

Did you see that about an hour or so after the Pope stepped down the Cathedral was struck by lightning?

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

It was the picture on the front page of The Guardian.

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@izzythepush,

But they can do tricks with photographs. Not that I'm saying the pic was faked.

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@spendius,

They can, but the whole thing will be interpreted individually by whoever's watching based on what they already think. Some will see it as God's approval/disaproval with the Catholic Church/All Christan churches/this particular pope/all popes, or they'll just see it as a coincidence.

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@izzythepush,

That was really cool, Izzy.

Funny thing: Nancy and I have been watching episodes from last years The Borgias...and the one we watched day before yesterday was the one where lightening hit the dome of St. Peters and crashed down on the celebrants and congregation.

Awesome!

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@Frank Apisa,

By the way...the Dome of St. Peters seems to get hit as often as the mast atop the Empire State Building...which apparently is quite often.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Well since I do not take drugs...Please explain to me what druggies have told you they experience?

They go into another world and feel eternal ecstasy.. but stick to your way.. it's far cheaper and has minimal side affects.

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@Frank Apisa,

It is really good, brings it all to life. I'm looking forward to series 3.

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@izzythepush,

Comin' up soon.

Savonarola sure learned the hard way not to **** with a Borgia!

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Thank you Pope Benedict XVI...

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

It was a superb performance Spade. The flight over the Coliseum, The shot where the helicopter became smaller and smaller in the timeless blue.

Wonderful--I watched it all.

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@spendius,

The scene at Castel Gandolfo had special impact on me. I was part of a general audience with Pius XII in that courtyard back in the 1950's...a significant part of a very special memory even for a non-theist like me.

He is an old man willing to acknowledge his diminished capacity (which was by his nature probably stretched in the papacy)...and, unlike Dylan, I hope he does go gentle into that good night.

(ASIDE: Some of the hateful rhetoric aimed at him is, in my opinion, way, way over-the-top. No matter his failings, he is a human in his old age...and I think some of his detractors ought do a bit of reconsideration.)

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@Frank Apisa,

I know what you mean about the rhetoric, but in this instance we have a man who actively participated in a cover up. I doubt very much if he'll leave the Vatican city, because now he no longer has the protection of head of state he may well be handed a subpoena.

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@izzythepush,

He's been all over the world meeting people.

Media is out to get the Church for obvious reasons and you have it from Media that he participated in the cover up. And the Sir James, "Jimmy" Savile case has over 400 separate allegations under investigation involving cover ups at the BBC and in the NHS. Murders in Iraq and in barracks in Aldershot.

Loads of stuff is covered up.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

He's been all over the world meeting people.

As head of state.

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@Frank Apisa,

I agree with you Frank, and think that that was very well said...at first I thought he should keep his position till death...Then further examining it, I reconsidered and realized how humble and courageous it is to step down if you honestly know you want more peace and a simpler life before you pass...because it shows he isn't doing anything other than just trying to be the best person he can be...and he is not doing or being someone he does not want to be...and coming to these realizations and letting everyone know them before he sees Jesus himself...His actions are displaying the ultimate ways to imitate a follower of Jesus before you leave and are with Jesus forever...Showing he knows Jesus, and knows he will be with Jesus soon...and that he was the incarnate of St. Peter, but is getting ready to live forever with Jesus...

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