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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 03:42 am
@reasoning logic,
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Ryan is not making Christianity look any more foolish than you are able to make it look. IMHO


And what is your HO based on? Saying somebody is foolish without saying why is objectively foolish. Spade is foolish for claiming to be a chosen confidant of God. He wants to construct an edifice without having been to architecture classes.

Plenty of atheists are in favour of peace and goodwill to all men.

Spade's claim is heresy. Ask an educated Catholic. And he sets up Christianity as a laughing stock.

What does the "H" stand for?
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 04:19 am
@spendius,
Spades is Spades.

What he believes in he believes in and honestly, it's kept the thread going for a lonnnnnnnnnng time.

However, I am betting he's sitting back feeling quite, well, do I fit here now? Yet it's his thread.

He has a right to believe in what he believes in.

We have a right to debate.

But, this thread the past few days has turned to, well putting his mind where he doesn't need to go.

It's an interesting debate on the reality of everything.. I'd like to see it revert, given that it's strayed.

He is who he is... and why shouldn't he be..

spendius
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 04:40 am
@FOUND SOUL,
You become more than what you are when you start preaching.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thucydides#Thucydides_versus_Herodotus

Read and try to raise the subject of Christianity out of the ambience of a domestic science tea-break discussion. Eh?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 06:36 am
@spendius,
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And what is your HO based on? Saying somebody is foolish without saying why is objectively foolish. Spade is foolish for claiming to be a chosen confidant of God. He wants to construct an edifice without having been to architecture classes.


I think that Ryan may be taking the needed classes to become a true profit as we type. Ryan is a young person and still has plenty of time left to shape his view of reality.
IMHO he can be a profit if he is able to share "truth" with others that will profit them. "he is still working on the truth part but I think he will get there"

Quote:
Plenty of atheists are in favour of peace and goodwill to all men.


That can be said about many groups of people so whats your point?

Quote:
Spade's claim is heresy. Ask an educated Catholic. And he sets up Christianity as a laughing stock.


Isn't the bible able to do that without the help of Ryan? Talking snake, ark, living in the belly of a fish and so forth Rolling Eyes

You sound like a church official from back in Jesus 's time. Didn't you anti progressives also say that Jesus was a heretic?

Quote:
What does the "H" stand for?


Handsome
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 08:11 am
@reasoning logic,
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That can be said about many groups of people so whats your point?


That if that is the message from God Spade is receiving it is no big deal.

Quote:
Handsome


I don't believe you.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 08:22 am
@spendius,
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I don't believe you.


If you had the faith of a mustard seed you would, or if you were to compare me to Izzy. Idea
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 08:25 am
@spendius,
Hebetudinous?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 08:29 am
@izzythepush,
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Hebetudinous?


Are you ready for your third video?
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 08:34 am
@reasoning logic,
who the hell is "Ryan"?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 08:37 am
@farmerman,
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who the hell is "Ryan"?


Spademaster
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 08:46 am
@reasoning logic,
I think you meant "honest" and I don't trust anyone who draws attention to their honesty. As you proved necessary with "handsome".
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 08:52 am
@spendius,
I always thought that the h was for humble.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 09:08 am
@reasoning logic,
You can post as many videos as you want, and you probably will. I won't be watching any of them.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 10:34 am
@izzythepush,
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You can post as many videos as you want, and you probably will. I won't be watching any of them.


Promise?

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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 03:02 pm
I think that anti-Christians think that before it was thought necessary to seek an alternative to what was going on what was going on was something like what is going on now around them only with no churches.

Or to put it another way, what they know about history could be written on a postage stamp with a bill-poster's brush.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 03:27 pm
@spendius,
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anti-Christians


Don't you think that anti-Christian might be subjective? I can only imagine that there is someone out there that thinks you are anti-Christian.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 04:10 pm
@spendius,
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"We should also spend more funds to get our young people out of the library where they're reading Thucydides and get them to start living like Herodotus — going out and seeing the world
."

Quote:
"The State that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."




Quote:
Thucydides attributes the existence of the divine entirely to the needs of political life. The gods are seen as existing only in the minds of men. Religion as such reveals itself in the History to be not simply one type of social behaviour among others, but what permeates the whole of social existence, permitting the emergence of justice


Quote:
Herodotus
Typically, he passes no definitive judgment on what he has heard. In the case of conflicting or unlikely accounts, he presents both sides, says what he believes and then invites readers to decide for themselves


That was actually an interesting read, the two quotes at the beginning of this post, I admire.

This is what differentuates people's thoughts, and it's been going on for 100's of years, so Thucydides based his thoughts on politics, refused to bring anything to the table of people's beliefs and possible came from wealth, thereby, had some form of power mentally and motivation but would not bring in the things that he loved doing, or believed in.

Where as, Herodotus refused to judge, or make claims, rather allowed people to read his writing and come to their own conculsions. He was not a book worm, rather learnt from experience, getting out there. Thucydides was a book worm and used science and politics to draw his conclusions.

Given that all I have ever learnt has been from experience, not practical I guess I get Herodotus... And, I feel Thucydides hid behind papers, books, trying to make everything factual. There is nothing wrong with "experience" that over rules in my opinion any written word.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 29 Apr, 2012 11:24 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
Spades is Spades.

What he believes in he believes in and honestly, it's kept the thread going for a lonnnnnnnnnng time.

However, I am betting he's sitting back feeling quite, well, do I fit here now? Yet it's his thread.

He has a right to believe in what he believes in.

We have a right to debate.

But, this thread the past few days has turned to, well putting his mind where he doesn't need to go.

It's an interesting debate on the reality of everything.. I'd like to see it revert, given that it's strayed.

He is who he is... and why shouldn't he be..

Same to you!! And it will revert back!
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2012 12:14 am
@reasoning logic,
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true profit

The word your looking for is Prophet...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 30 Apr, 2012 12:16 am
@FOUND SOUL,
I can't find it on youtube because they can not link full episodes...

The video where the Simpsons slam Christianity is called "in Marge we Trust"

It is season 9, episode 22....

If you have the ability to watch full episodes...
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