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Question to those who do or do not doubt Christianity

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 07:18 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Yes, but you seem to think all of us are devils....


I do not believe in a devil but I do have an understanding about us humans and this understanding leads me to think that we are the closest thing in reality to being a devil.

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Yes, but you seem to think all of us are devils....


I see it like this, "even the most kind people among us do us a disservice when they speak in absolutes about things that are not true. If there was a devil he would be opposite of the truth.

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It doesn't hinder anyone...What hinders people, is telling them their a devil, for doing wicked things from time to time...rather than a good person who fucked up....


I do not believe in a devil but if there was one he would be spreading untruths which are stumbling blocks for all of us.

If there is a devil then show us some evidence for him, is he hiding behind the clouds or under a rock? If you want to understand the human concept about the devil I see nothing wrong with that but to {believe} in that same human concept seems sad to me.
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 09:55 am
@reasoning logic,
Those people who do this...could be right, they could be wrong, that is not a devil....A devil is someone, who orchestrates their lives to doing evil, malicious ****, and only care about hurting other human beings....

Much different than your stumbling block theory...For what I have experienced, and been thru, its not fable, and no I can not prove it to you...I am not trying to cause people to slip intentionally, but looking out for what lies ahead, if what I see and feel is real...

Which I have no reason to fabricate...or orchestrate...If my visions and dreams are my own reality, than I would think I was right all the time...And there would be no reason to have these visions and dreams, about the Devil, and Hell...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 11:17 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Which I have no reason to fabricate...or orchestrate...If my visions and dreams are my own reality, than I would think I was right all the time...And there would be no reason to have these visions and dreams, about the Devil, and Hell...



I have never said that you intentionally mean to do bad things. All of us make mistakes throughout our lives and some times we know these things we do are wrong but we do them regardless.
A sociopath does not feel empathy and does not have a guilty conscience.
Have you ever done something that was harmful to anyone else without feeling bad about it? I know I have when I reflect back on it. There are some people that remain in that frame of mind all of the time. Do you think that me and you are better than them because our brains allow us to feel empathy and have a conscience more often than them?

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A devil is someone, who orchestrates their lives to doing evil, malicious ****, and only care about hurting other human beings....


You sound like you are talking about someone who has a full blown case of sociopathy but I do not think that all sociopaths behave this way because some of them are logical and do not want to go to jail or they realize that the same things can happen to themselves and that is not the kind of world they want to live in. It seems what you are describing would be a illogical sociopath and one that really has twisted view of life .

We use to call them devils before we had a better understanding of the brain.
There are a number of things that can change a persons behavior from fair to very poor.
Environment and neurochemistry do seem to be big game changers.
I hear there is an encephalitis virus that can turn a young man into a little monster and the same virus can put a full grown person to sleep for months and some times indefinitely.

izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:06 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

I hear there is an encephalitis virus that can turn a young man into a little monster and the same virus can put a full grown person to sleep for months and some times indefinitely.


Are you saying that virus is the work of the Devil?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 12:15 pm
@izzythepush,
Its a curse of the devil but sometimes witches do things like that too.
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voiceindarkness
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 05:57 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

I do not know how much this is going to do, But I will try anyways to clear the air so that you understand...(that is, if the reply was intended for me, as you did not state...)

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Go ahead and HATE your NIEGHBOR, Neutral

I do not hate anyone...I do not hate you, I do not hate your wife...

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Go ahead and CHEAT a FRIEND. Confused

I am not cheating you, nor your wife, I am looking out for you from people who are ravenous wolves, and do not take the time to understand either one of you, or both of you are sick...and will do and say evil, malicious **** toward you...I will repeat I am not your enemy here...and wish not to fight nor debate with you anymore...I am a comrade in battle, who is looking out for my brother and sister...(those which you have not done for the least of my brothers and sisters, you have not done for me...)

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Do it in the NAME of HEAVEN, Rolling Eyes

I do not use the Lord, to proselytize things which are not true, nor don't have important meanings...I think this is important, and God is compelling me to show compassion, which is what I am doing...I know a lot will prey on the weakness of you and your wife...and I do not believe either you, are her, are truly evil, or malicious enough people to deserve that (if anyone) ...But if you wish to stay you can...If you think that is a bad thing I am doing in the name of Heaven..It is not, read it carefully, and you will see I am trying to protect you 2...

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You can JUSTIFY it in the END. Wink

I can justify it now, I do not even need to wait to the end...

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There won't be any TRUMPETS BLOWING, Neutral

I know God, and I will know when the end is coming by the signs....(which is happening as we speak!)

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Come the JUDGEMENT DAY. Sad
On the BLOODY MORNING AFTER, Smile

Yeah, and I know for sure, which side I am on...

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One tin soldier rides away... Cool

Yeah, which no offense...I can feel him inside of me, filling me with his spirit, and no I do not think it is you, no offense directed toward you in anyway shape or form...

That is complete honesty toward you, and Lisa...from a brother in Christ...


Did I pull your string? Laughing
U think everything is about you? Rolling Eyes

It's the words of a classic Christian song " One Tin Soldier ". Neutral

The song is about two nations that go to war, over a treasure under a stone, on the top of a mountain. After one nation destroys the other in a bloody battle, they climb the mountain, reach the treasure, turn over the stone, and PEACE ON EARTH, was all it said....so...

Go ahead and HATE your NIEGHBOR, Neutral
Go ahead and CHEAT a FRIEND. Confused
Do it in the NAME of HEAVEN, Rolling Eyes
You can JUSTIFY it in the END. Wink
There won't be any TRUMPETS BLOWING, Neutral
Come the JUDGEMENT DAY. Sad
On the BLOODY MORNING AFTER, Smile
One tin soldier rides away... Cool

What! No comment here? Neutral
And OZ never gave nothin to the TIN MAN, Smile
That HE didn't ALREADY HAVE. Cool
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2012 10:22 pm
@voiceindarkness,
Who was the post meant for??

No one else is even entertaining your posts, besides Soul...Was that for everyone??
voiceindarkness
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 02:30 am
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Who was the post meant for??

I am the VOICE in the DARKNESS... Cool
I SPEAK into DARKNESS, Smile while I wait to SEEwho will HEAR. Very Happy

No one else is even entertaining your posts, besides Soul...Was that for everyone??

You are entertaining me with conversation, Cool
But, there are others listening in. Wink
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 11:25 am
@voiceindarkness,
Really? Well, no offense, but no one is listening...Except, Myself, and Soul...
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 12:11 pm
@reasoning logic,
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I have never said that you intentionally mean to do bad things. All of us make mistakes throughout our lives and some times we know these things we do are wrong but we do them regardless.
A sociopath does not feel empathy and does not have a guilty conscience.
Have you ever done something that was harmful to anyone else without feeling bad about it?

Yes, but where not devil's....or sociopaths...

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I know I have when I reflect back on it. There are some people that remain in that frame of mind all of the time. Do you think that me and you are better than them because our brains allow us to feel empathy and have a conscience more often than them?

No, I don't think were better, blood on all of our hands...A devil (or sociopath) is someone out for blood all the time...regardless of others feelings...

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You sound like you are talking about someone who has a full blown case of sociopathy but I do not think that all sociopaths behave this way because some of them are logical and do not want to go to jail or they realize that the same things can happen to themselves and that is not the kind of world they want to live in. It seems what you are describing would be a illogical sociopath and one that really has twisted view of life .

That is what a Devil is, and why humans are not Devil's or sociopaths...Just people who think and do irrational things at times...and are a little messed up in the head at times....Or not thinking clearly, or for the better of society...

My experiences, I am actually talking about the one and only devil described in the Bible...Yes, that is how horrific his pits are, and yes, that is how horrific he is, and thinks, and acts....

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We use to call them devils before we had a better understanding of the brain.
There are a number of things that can change a persons behavior from fair to very poor.

Still not devil's, or the Devil, I am referring to...No one is truly as fucked up as the Devil I have encountered...and am referring to, by the "definition" of Devil...or Devil's...These things, Demons, or the Devil himself...Are in a league of their own...Humans are not devils...We make mistakes, and are definitely messed up in the head at times...(All of us) I would not say were devil's or sociopaths...

If there are people who are out for blood all the time, then yes their a demon or devil or sociopath.....Not ordinary people, who make mistakes...
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 02:06 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
You can mind read too XXS, amazing Smile

Voice they read but do not hear
Because your words are jumpled my dear
Perhaps walk further into the light
Then maybe people will hear, well they might
Mr. Green
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 03:04 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
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You can mind read too XXS, amazing

Thanks!! Wink Wink Very Happy Very Happy ...I prefer to call it perceptions of minds, or perceiving of minds...

Problem is, is I run into a lot who are not honest about it when I do it, or feel it...But I think that is because they are uncomfortable, or uneasy with the feeling...Which I understand...

And thanks, but I can't take any credit for the gift...For the glory is the Lords, and he is responsible for all of it...For the Glory, Power, Kingdom, and Dominion is his forevermore!
FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 03:26 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Defining a person, understanding a person and consequently, being able to know that person and how they think....

Powerful Smile Especially when via written communication.

Gifts are given in life, as all gifts they are special.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 06:19 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I am actually talking about the one and only devil described in the Bible...Yes, that is how horrific his pits are, and yes, that is how horrific he is, and thinks, and acts....


The devil is a man made concept much like the spaghetti monster, "they are not real.

I know you like comedy so I thought you may like this.


XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 07:33 pm
@reasoning logic,
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The devil is a man made concept much like the spaghetti monster, "they are not real.

Oh yeah? That is what "you think"...In which case, I hope your right!
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 07:34 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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I know you like comedy so I thought you may like this.

I don't mind comedy...but I don't think that video will get me to laugh at what I have been thru and experienced...no offense...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 07:37 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
What came first logic and reason or superstition and make-believe? Idea
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 07:38 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
I think that you may be OK with it. It is not hateful only humor.
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 07:44 pm
@reasoning logic,
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What came first logic and reason or superstition and make-believe?

Does it matter?

It is irrational and illogical to think you can destroy people's experiences, and dismiss them as delusions and grandeur...Because there is no way to validate them, nor prove, dis prove...nor accepting, because of likes or dislikes...

The same illogical and irrationally as it is to believe in these "superstitions"...
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2012 07:55 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
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Does it matter?


Not if reality is of no concern to you. but then again maybe logical reasoning did come before make-believe and superstition.
In the beginning God created man to think scientifically and over time man has devolved and has also become less intellectual.
 

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