@High Seas,
Quote:The Treasury has since dipped into the trust funds and the exchange stabilization fund, but even so tax receipts that came in ensure there's enough money until at least Aug. 15. This is an Obama + Democrats charade
You seem to be somewhat alone in your view that this is a "charade". The implications of a default next Tuesday are all too real, and all too serious. Denial of this seems far less connected to reality than the "hysterical blather" you are trying to dismiss. While the U.S. might have enough money to meet some of its obligations until August 15th, it could not meet all of them.
Among other things at stake is the credit rating of the United States. A downgrade of that credit rating would also have a domino effect on the credit rating of the states and about 7,000 municipalities.
Quote:Moody's says US should retain top credit rating
Posted: 6:21 p.m. yesterday
Updated: 33 minutes ago
WASHINGTON &mdashMoody's Investors Service said late Friday that the United States should be able to keep its triple-A credit rating as long as Washington works out a deal that lets it continue to pay bondholders.
The credit rating agency said it thinks that even if the nation's $14.3 trillion borrowing limit isn't raised by Tuesday's deadline, the government would give priority to making interest payments on its debt and thereby avoid a default.
Moody's had warned July 13 that the country's credit rating was in danger of being downgraded because of the stalemate in Congress over raising the debt limit.
In its statement Friday, however, Moody's said that based on its current review it would likely rate the U.S. debt as triple-A but with a negative outlook. That would mean that there is a possibility of a downgrade in the future.
"If there were a default on a Treasury debt obligation, a downgrade would likely follow, even if the default were swiftly cured and investors suffered no permanent losses," Moody's said in its new report.
Credit rating agencies assess the riskiness of debt issued by companies and governments. The three major agencies — Moody's, Standard & Poor's and Fitch Ratings — have all raised warnings in recent months that they might downgrade the U.S. government's triple-A rating.
Such a downgrade would send shockwaves through the financial system. The government has had the highest credit rating for nearly a century. That rating has allowed the United States to pay the lowest interest rates possible to finance Treasury debt.
Sherry Cooper, chief economist at BMO Financial Group, said the decision by Moody's to back away from its threatened downgrade was "great news" and would probably make a potential downgrade by S&P less of a threat as well.
"What is really important is that the likelihood of a Treasury default has fallen sharply as the prospects of a debt-ceiling hike in the next few days has increased," Cooper said. "The U.S. is now more likely to retain its Moody's triple-A rating as long as it does not default."
In its new report, Moody's said that it would consider the government in default only if it missed an interest or principal payment on its debt, not if the government had to delay payments in such areas as federal employee salaries, Social Security or bills from vendors.
"If the debt limit is not raised before Aug. 2, we believe that the Treasury would give priority to debt service payments and could thus postpone a potential default for a number of days," Moody's said. "Revenues would be more than adequate for some period of time to meet those payments, although other outlays would be severely reduced as a result."
Some private economists have estimated that the government could keep operating without defaulting on its debt payments perhaps as long as Aug. 15.
The announcement by Moody's on Friday followed favorable comments Wednesday by Deven Sharma, the president of Standard & Poor's. He told a congressional committee that some of the deficit-cutting plans Congress is considering would lower the U.S. debt burden enough to allow the country to retain its triple-A rating.
However, Sharma said that S&P would not make a final determination until it had a much clearer view of what package of deficit-cutting proposals Congress would be adopting as part of a deal to raise the debt limit.
However, he said that previous reports indicating that Congress would need to make $4 trillion in deficit cuts over 10 years to retain a triple-A rating were not accurate. He declined during his testimony to be specific about the threshold, although he said the plan would have to make a credible attack on the U.S. deficit problems.
http://www.wral.com/business/story/9931024/
With very slow growth and high unemployment, a default would be a severe body blow to our still faltering economy. Pretending otherwise does not alter reality. Flirting with this sort of disaster, as the Tea Partiers have been doing, is not unlike terrorist tactics--and the potential victims would be not just the government, but the entire American public. There was a reason that the World Trade Center was struck on 9/11--it was a symbol of American financial strength, and the intended goal was to damage the American economy. That we now have Tea Party members of Congress moving toward that same aim, whether out of sheer stupidity or misguided ideologically zealotry, hardly makes them the "patriots" they claim to be.
The debt ceiling must be raised by August 2nd--these are obligations the U.S.
already owes. The issue of how then to best reduce future debt can continue as a process of negotiation and compromise, without the reckless immediate threats to our country's economic stability that the Tea Partiers are now employing.
Significant cuts in spending have already been agreed to, neither side is really getting what they want, but, right now, with a deadline looming, the time has come to pass a bill to raise the debt limit ceiling and continue the negotiation process later.