@Frank Apisa,
Quote:The message has been deleted for whatever reason...so I cannot verify that the quote ever was there.
Are you saying that you never wrote:
On the contrary. I would like all my messages where the video is shown to be posted again.
Quote:If we have a reasonable conversation, it will be about whether or not homosexuality is a choice. This "against nature" addition is an intangible that is unnecessary.[/quote
Is this is the case, then first explain what homosexuality is for you. Please have an ordinated response with plausible background and efficient fundament.
[quote]No we don't. I am not questioning psychologists or psychiatrists...I am questioning you. You apparently are saying that homosexuality is a choice.
Well, you must learn that in the past psychologists and psychiatrists accepted homosexuality as a mental condition to be treated. For this reason, it is important to find out what made them change their minds.
It must be a valid discovering, a valid reason for such a change.
Quote: I say it is not, because there is no way it is a choice for me. Men simply do not turn me on sexually.
Is it a choice for you or not?
The reason you and I do not have such a choice is because by nature and reasoning we follow our human condition and respect for our gender identification.
On the other hand, many homosexuals didn't want to become as such but they suffered of sexual violation, and they are in mental disequilibrium. A similar status or condition is found with women who were sexually violated when they were young, and when they become adults they seem to have sex with tens or hundreds of men. Both cases are in need of therapy.
Other kind of homosexuals are just pervert, like dudes who have inclination to steal or kill. Even when they know that their desires are against society, they choose to continue with their negative behavior. The same applies to homosexuals who swear that they were born this way.
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I want to get past my first question before going on to others.
Your question has been answered. We can pass to the others.
Quote:Are you a trained psychologist...with a specialty in homosexuality? If not...your notions of being able to verify any of their conclusions seems grandiose on your part. Do you not agree?
You don't need to be a physicist to declare that the theories of Relativity are just fantasies. A simple scrutiny on their doctrines and simple explanations on the different phenomena debunks the whole crap of those theories.
The same a well, a scrutiny on the tests made by psychologists on homosexuality can easily demonstrate that the tests have no valid experimental background.
I know about scrutiny, troubleshooting has been my master knowledge, and I can use this knowledge of mine in different fields. Just try me.
Quote:Respectfully as possible, Carlos, if you want to do research into why so many golfers who should be shooting in the high 70's to low 80's often end up shooting in the 90's...I'm your man. If you are going to research psychology as complicated as this...or rocket science...I will have to excuse myself. I suspect you ought to do the same.
Well, I can show you that the tests made by psychologists were so simple and definitively stupid, that you won't need anything but to establish a basic rule which is ignored by them, and all their "studies" are found invalid.
If I say that homosexuality is a choice and a mental condition that must be treated, is because I have found that the methods used by psychologists to consider homosexuality as a normal behavior are not only incomplete but ridiculous.