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New York New York!

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 4 Apr, 2015 12:49 pm
@jcboy,
OK, then!
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jcboy
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2015 01:41 pm
Go ahead, instigate an uprising, history will not smile on these phony christians. I haven't checked, but I seem to recall similar threats of uprisings against womens suffrage, voting rights in the south, etc. This, too, will pass. Cool

Revolution! Anti-Gay Activists Threaten Uprising If Supreme Court Approves Marriage Equality

Quote:
Speaking from the pulpit of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado, in May 2004, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson called for an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. Dobson’s words were simulcast into churches across the country as part of a “Battle for Marriage” rally that just happened to coincide with President George W. Bush’s hard-fought reelection campaign. Three months earlier, the president himself hadannounced to the nation that “to prevent the meaning of marriage from being changed forever, our nation must enact a constitutional amendment to protect marriage in America.”

Opposition to same-sex marriage emerged as a key component of the president’s reelection strategy that year, as the Bush campaign worked with Religious Right leaders, including Dobson, to marshal conservative voters to the polls to back state constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage and other unions. Ballot measures in 11 states, all successful, aided the president’s reelection bid and helped to swing the momentum, for a time, to the side of the anti-gay Right.

While a federal constitutional amendment banning marriage for gay and lesbian couples had failed to clinch the required votes from either house of Congress, after the 2004 election, Dobson stressed that “mainstream Americans” supported such an amendment, knowing that they “could not stand idly by while the radical gay agenda was forced down their throats.”

A decade later, Dobson left Focus on the Family, reportedly in part because the organization he had founded refused to give a leadership position to his divorced son. Dobson and his son Ryan now host a radio program called “Family Talk” and Focus has moved on under the less fiery leadership of Jim Daly. Ted Haggard, the pastor of the church where Dobson spoke at the 2004 “Battle for Marriage,” eventually left his post after acknowledging that he had relationships with men. An architect of Bush’s 2004 re-election strategy, Ken Mehlman, announced six years later that he is gay. Another Bush campaign strategist, Karl Rove, said in 2013 that he could see a future GOP presidential nominee endorsing gay marriage.

Public opinion has also changed dramatically in the decade since Bush’s reelection. Polling now consistently shows majority support for marriage equality, which is legal in 37 states.

This dramatic shift toward marriage equality may culminate this year when the Supreme Court hears arguments in Obergefell v. Hodges, a collection of cases challenging the constitutionality of the remaining state-level bans on same-sex marriage.

But the Religious Right is not ready to give up what was, until recently, a winning culture-war issue.


RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 25 Apr, 2015 02:03 pm
@jcboy,
Shooting revolutionists would be one way of weeding out racists.
jcboy
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2015 05:11 pm
@RABEL222,
If the Supreme Court decides that 2 consenting adults should be allowed to enter into a contract to share benefits (aka marriage, regardless of gender), how many milliseconds will it take before half of the Republican presidential candidates scream and cry that we need to amend the Constitution to ban gay marriage and nullify this decision? Gay marriage and abortion, always the 2 most important issues in America. Always.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Thu 30 Apr, 2015 06:15 pm
@jcboy,
Only to the very stupid or the very uneducated.
jcboy
 
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Reply Sun 3 May, 2015 12:25 pm
@RABEL222,
I'm going with June of this year, all 50 states!

A State Judge Just Ruled Louisiana's Gay Marriage Ban Unconstitutional

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A Louisiana state judge has ruled the state law prohibiting same-sex marriage unconstitutional, KLFY News reports.

Judge Edward Rubin of the 15th Judicial District Court in Louisiana ruled that state law prohibiting same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, violating the due process and equal protection clauses of 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as well as the full faith and credit clause.

The news comes weeks after District Judge Martin Feldman upheld the Louisiana Constitution’s ban on same-sex marriage in an error-riddled decision. Feldman's decision was a sudden monkey wrench following 21 consecutive federal rulings against banning gay marriage, a previously unbroken streak since the Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act in 2013.


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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 21 May, 2015 04:00 pm
And now for Irish Republic -

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/21/irelands-gay-marriage-referendum-the-guardian-briefing

I've somewhat been following this, and am worried it won't pass, re the older folks getting out the vote, and people they call the new irish, as in immigrants with different views who are now citizens. Anyway, the vote is tomorrow -
which is in a few hours..

(I haven't read today's review article yet, but have read a bunch lately in the Irish Times.)
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 22 May, 2015 11:24 am
@ossobuco,
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/generation-emigration/emigrants-take-planes-trains-and-automobiles-hometovote-1.2222151

Tough to arrange in order to vote - good on them.
lmur
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 04:55 am
@ossobuco,
The count is underway. Looks like a 2 to 1 majority in favour.

I'm delighted - now gays can be as miserable as the rest of us. Smile

ossobuco
 
  2  
Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 09:29 am
@lmur,
Ireland gay marriage vote: 'Extraordinary scenes' at Dublin Castle
40 minutes ago
Voters in Ireland are awaiting the outcome of a ballot on whether to legalise same-sex marriage.
Early indications suggest the "yes" vote will win, with prominent "no" campaigners already conceding defeat.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32860017

also -
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/just-say-yes-quotes-of-the-day-1.2223818
lmur
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 09:41 am
@ossobuco,
With more than half the votes counted, it'a 61-39. It's a special day here. I'm thinking especially of elderly gay people from rural areas who must have felt marginalised their entire lives.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 09:46 am
@lmur,
That really is amazingly wonderful.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 09:47 am
@lmur,
That's so great to hear - especially for an arch-catholic country like Ireland to vote almost 2/3 for equality and gay rights, is refreshing to hear.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 10:25 am
@CalamityJane,
from Reuters -

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/23/us-ireland-gaymarriage-idUSKBN0O717R20150523?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

Gay Ireland hails 'a new Republic' as same-sex marriage approved
DUBLIN | BY CONOR HUMPHRIES AND PADRAIC HALPIN

clip -

Gay couples flocked to central Dublin to celebrate a "historic watershed" on Saturday as a large majority in the traditionally Catholic country voted to allow same-sex marriage, the culmination of a four-decade struggle for gay rights.

Waving rainbow flags, embracing and crying, two thousand people gathered to watch the official results in the courtyard of Dublin Castle after voters, young and old, accounted for one of the highest turnouts in a referendum for decades.

"The amount of people who came out to vote is just such an emotional thing for us," said Fred Schelbaum, 48, standing with his civil partner Feargal Scott, 43, who he said he intended to marry.

"Up to now a lot of gay people felt they were tolerated in Ireland. Now we know that it's much more than that."
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Ragman
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 10:26 am
There's a good reason to celebrate - civil rights has taken another giant step forward.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 10:55 am
There was a commentator on the BBC who said that this result doesn't mean abortion will be legalised anytime soon.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 23 May, 2015 06:49 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/may/23/ireland-irish-gay-marriage-referendum

‘Ireland might just have become a great little country in which to be gay’

Lot of personal stories in this article, not all of them by gay people.
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jcboy
 
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Reply Mon 25 May, 2015 09:56 am
Congratulations Ireland. Although I do not believe such things should be put to popular vote I’m still happy for Ireland! The people have spoken!
Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 25 May, 2015 11:10 am
Well, one might sat that the Gay-licks are doing fine in Ireland.
lmur
 
  3  
Reply Mon 25 May, 2015 12:18 pm
@Ragman,
Groan (yet funny, with all Jew respect).
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