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The Fantasy Fantasy A2K NFL Pick-Um Thread for 2011-2012

 
 
Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 07:03 am
@spendius,


Waving the Red, White and Blue at you.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 11:05 am
@Ragman,
Not bad Rago.

You will no doubt remember from your English Literature classes that Theseus, the hero of that piece of magnifence known as A Midsummer Night's Dream, had a splendid capacity for enjoyment and classed together as one soul the lunatic, the lover and the poet. And thus is Shakespeare himself. And all the world's a stage and all.

And grand as Theseus was he was not above conflating the highest and the lowest representations so long as they set the mind of the spectator to work. He graciously allows himself to be amused and has no time for unmannerly rebuffs to those painstaking craftsmen who labour to please him. It is the business of the dramatist, the NFL administrators in this case, and the performers, to prod the imagination of the spectator and the spectator who lets himself be prodded is necessary to the performance. The QB who throws an interception which results in a defense touchdown knows very well that a close-up of his face will be on millions of TV screens and if he kicks over the bin containing the used plastic cups on his way off the field so much the better.

An NFL game, and this applies to all the popular sports covered by modern TV productions, is like A Midsummer Night's Dream in the sense that it is a performed phantasmagoria full of shadows and fleeting images, marvels, surprises, splendour and grotesqueries of joy and agony.

Rigged or not is of little consequence. It's great. Poetry in motion.

I owe John a debt of gratitude for introducing me to this wonderful spectacle.
Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 12:22 pm
@spendius,
After all, what matters the most, so it seems, is our own entertainment. That is is to say, for those that are done with contemplating their own navels.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 12:29 pm
@Ragman,
And where did we learn that from?
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 12:49 pm
Speaking of contemplating navels, here is the scenario for the results of Week #4-
Edgar and Ragman are 12-3 and both are picking Tampa Bay tonight. Edgar thinks the final score will be 32-24 while Ragman see it as 24-17. The 1st tiebreaker is the winning team's score; 29 or more gives the week to Edgar, while 27 or fewer turns it to Ragman. Several players also choose Tampa Bay with the closest being 11-4.
If Indy wins, Edgar and Ragman would be 12-4 as would EhBeth (choosing Indy 16-10), AndyClubber (27-17) and Ms Cowdoc (21-20).
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 02:49 pm
@Ragman,
Quote:
That is is to say, for those that are done with contemplating their own navels.


Yes, and that might be more difficult to do than to say Rago.

What happens when the offense is on its own 1 yard line and incurs a penalty?
George
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 03:14 pm
@spendius,
When the distance to penalized is greater than half the distance to the
goal line, then the distance to be penalized is determined to be half the
distance to the goal line.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 03:19 pm
8 early games, 3 late ones, plus 1 each on Sunday and Monday nights. 13 games with 6 teams having bye weeks.

WEEK #5 Schedule (Oct 9-10th)-
Early:
New Orleans @ Carolina
Arizona @ Minnesota
Philadelphia @ Buffalo
Seattle @ NY Giants
Cincinnati @ Jacksonville
Kansas City @ Indianapolis
Tennessee @ Pittsburgh
Oakland @ Houston
Late:
Tampa Bay @ San Francisco
NY Jets @ New England
San Diego @ Denver
Sunday Night:
Green Bay @ Atlanta
Monday Night:
Chicago @ Detroit (+ final score)

Byes: Baltimore, Cleveland, Dallas, Miami, St Louis and Washington
fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 04:13 pm
I'm afraid CoinToss/CoinToss is doing much better than me.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 05:04 pm
@George,
Thanks George. Can the line of scrimmage be in the end zone? And if is can what happens if another penalty in incurred by the offense?

What are the possible results from a punt?
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 05:11 pm
@spendius,
I suspect that if there is no room left to move the ball half-way to the goal, the ball will stay where it was: in playing territory. It could be that the team committing the foul will lose a down. If a player jumps off side when the ball is at the 8 yard on 1st down, the placement would move to the 4 but it would still be 1st down. Perhaps that changes to 2nd if the ball cannot be moved. That would be my rule.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 05:22 pm
@realjohnboy,
Why not give away 3 points if the penalty results in going behind the back line and the ball given back to the opposition starting from their own 40. Otherwise a foul can result in no penalty.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 05:27 pm
@spendius,
sounds too soccery...
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 05:31 pm
@spendius,
That does happen when a team is hopelessly bottled up on their own goal line. They will take the "safety," giving up 2 points and have the opportunity to launch a free kick from their own 20 yard line. It depends on the score, I guess.
I don't follow football closely, though. I just write about it, so what do I know?
CowDoc
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 06:41 pm
@realjohnboy,
One - the down can never change if a penalty is accepted. Half the distance, even if it is in millimeters, is still assessed. This is true regardless of which end zone the ball is near.

Two - an intentional safety gives up two points, but guarantees that the defense can not score a touchdown by way of a fumble or blocked punt. It is strictly a defensive gambit late in the game to ensure a victory, as a general rule. Make sense?
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CowDoc
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 06:42 pm
@George,
And, George, the exception to the rule of half the distance is that of pass interference on the defense. In the NFL, the ball is placed at the spot of the foul. If it occurs in the end zone, the ball is spotted at the one-yard line.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 09:01 pm
By the CNN Wire Staff Country singer Hank Williams Jr. compared President Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler in recent remarks. (CNN) -- For the first time in years, "Monday Night Football" viewers did not hear Hank Williams Jr.
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2011 10:14 pm
@realjohnboy,
OMG...if somehow (unlikely) event that TB Bucs don't score in the next 1:44 of this game, I will have guessed the score exactly. So here I am in TB metro area cheering for my local team NOT to score.

How ironic!
spendius
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2011 08:54 am
@Ragman,
It's not ironic Rago. It's selling out. And not even for cash which would be understandable. For pride. Shame on you.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2011 09:13 am
WEEK #5 Picks

New Orleans
Arizona
Buffalo
NY Giants
Cincinnati
Indianapolis
Tennessee
Houston

San Francisco
New England
San Diego

Green Bay

Chicago (24-21)
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