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married man who online webcam with naked girls

 
 
confuse
 
Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 01:19 am
I been in a arguement with a friend about this, and it is bothering me and I need you guys view on this.
I have a friend who he is married and have children, he is married man but he every night online webcam with girls NAKED webcam.
I know about so I tell him he SHOULD NOT DO THIS and STOP RIGHT AWAY!! Because he is Married.
Then he said I have no logic and I am weak on logic.
Then I get mad and I ask him, do he have any morals at all? Maried men should not do this.
Anyways, I think my friend is not listening to me.
Please tell me if any married men have the rights to do this? This is not morals, how can you be married and every night online webcam naked with girls.
I know it his life, but as a friend, I think I have the rights to tell him to STOP doing things like this. After today, I will not tell him anymore, it his life, his choice.
I just don't understand how can he say I not have LOGIC, and he said my Logic is weak and I have logic confuse, What the heck!!!
This is not about logic, it is about MORALS!!! Terrible man!
 
lamelslissa
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 03:01 am
@confuse,
I think you have perfectly fine morals. A married man, nor any man for that manner, should be looking at naked girls on a webcam. Not even single men and the women shouldn't be on there showing people their nakedness. As far as him, his wife should be enough for his eyes. But that is the world we live in and the same morals our ancestors had less people have them today. But do realize that arguing with someone will not make them change, you gave your opinion and should probably leave it at that. People change because they want to not because someone tells them to stop.
jespah
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 07:16 am
@lamelslissa,
Beyond morals, it's gotta be expensive, either in terms of paying for the dubious privilege (by the way, how do you know that he's really looking at cavorting naked girls online? It would not be the first time someone lied about this, in a doubtful display of machismo) or paying for it in damage to his relationship.

PS With kids around, it's worse -- what happens when they see this?

But, ultimately, what does the guy's wife say?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 07:53 am
@confuse,
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he every night online webcam with girls NAKED webcam.
Do you know the address ? So i dont accidentally bump into it, of course ....
jespah
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 07:55 am
@Ionus,
I am waiting for that old line - this thread is useless without pictures.
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 30 May, 2011 08:30 am
@jespah,
Quote:
this thread is useless without pictures.
Ah ! Yes ! Evidence....
confuse
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 04:01 am
@Ionus,
I explain this to more details.
This is a friend of mine from high school, me and him we are graduate same class. But that many many years ago, we all old now and married.
I know about this because we friends on a social network (sorry it his privacy, I cannot tell which social networks or show you any pictures). The other day, he wrote a blog entry in his social network. He said that he enjoy use the webcam to watch "naked" girls online, and enjoys chat with girls, and he included some naked girls pictures (maybe those girls his friends, I don't know)
His wife is at work, so I guess he is bored so he online, but that does not give him the excuse to go join webcam naked with girls.
After read his blog entry about this, I have a little talk with him. As a friend graduate in the same high school class, I think I have the rights to tell him what he do is wrong and he should stop. This will be the only time I tell him, and ofcourse his choice to stop or not.
He seem angry about it, and he said my logic is weak, what ever! I told him it is wrong that he is married with kids and involve in "naked" webcam chat with women.
I honestly think married men should behave, and not when their wife at work and they online to "naked" webcam chat with girls. It just not right!
jespah
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 05:37 am
@confuse,
So, because you went to High School with him, you have the right to lecture him about his morals? This is good to know, as I went to High School in a class with 400 people in it, so I'll be expecting 400 notes if I make a moral misstep.

But let's get back to this guy. If he's out on a social network and is posting naked girlie photos, why not contact the social network and have the pics pulled? And, for that matter, won't the guy's wife find out anyway? We are talking about a social network plus, probably, website viewing history on his PC. There's a huge element of catch me, look how naughty I'm being about this guy's behavior.

I am not saying it is right or wonderful. But, ultimately, he and his wife are adults. Are his children in danger? I mean, bottom line, that would be serious. But if they aren't, well, where are you going with this? You told the guy, he's setting himself up to be caught anyway, but he was dumb enough (and arrogant enough) to laugh in your face.

If I was his wife, I'd be less angry about the naked girlie cam than I would about the fact that the guy is clearly not working during the day and, probably, not actively looking for work. And I'd also be angered and concerned about the children potentially seeing something. Naked girlie chatting comes third on my list of things I'd be angered by, but maybe that's just me.
Ionus
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 06:01 am
@jespah,
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I'd also be angered and concerned about the children potentially seeing something
Strongly agree !
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 06:14 am
@confuse,
Hell my wife have no problem with me looking at such videos or pictures and she had even once label a few CDs on mine with the title Bill's girls HOWEVER she would get bend out of shape if I was spending family money on such entertainment to any real degree as your friend look to be doing.

Oh and live chat would be over the top even if free I am fairly sure.
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confuse
 
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Reply Tue 31 May, 2011 09:21 pm
@jespah,
Jespah, how do you feel if that was your Wife or Husband go online and turn on their webcam and enjoy seeing the other party over the webcam strip naked.
No, I do not lecture him alright. I tell him that he should stop because he is married. And Yes, I have the rights to say something because we are friends for 10 years ever since we graduate high school, and we often talks about family stuff and we are good friends, we often give each other opinions.
I don't have any rights to lecture 400 people in my high school class (because I don't know them), BUT I know him, as close friend for 10 YEARS, still keep in touch, live in the same city, both his wife and him, and me and my husband know each others, then Yes! I have the RIGHTS to say what he do is wrong.
And it not just about seeing "naked" pictures alright. He webcam with girls who are "naked" strip naked in the webcam for him. He admit this himself to me, he thinks it is OK because he is currently lay off and at home with nothing to do. He said he enjoy see girls trip naked on webcam.
Before he was not like this, he just recently change doing this kind of stuff.
His wife don't use social networks, she trust her husband, his wife is Filipino, nice girl, work hard, not good at computer, I know this because we are friends and we come over their house for dinner so I know this woman not a computer person.

Useless to report a blog to social network, it is his personal blog, he have every rights to post what he enjoy in his blog. I only know this 2 days ago, and he admit that he webcam with girls, the man admit it himself alright.
I really think married should not be doing this stuff.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 04:25 am
@confuse,
The moral problem here mainly at least to me is that he is spending large amount of family money to do this.

Somehow I do not think his working wife is going to be happy with the idea that she is working many hours a week to pay for his sexual enjoyment in this manner.
confuse
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 05:16 am
@BillRM,
large amount of income on this? I don't think so, paying for internet a month is like $20 and a whole family can use internet.
Chatroom are everywhere. In chatroom people are willing to webcam with you if they like you, or if they webcam and strip naked that is between him and the people he webcam with.
He is not watching porn, he is going to chatroom to chat and webcam with girls, and he say he enjoy see girls show him some skin.

the moral here to me is that a married man should not be on webcam naked with any woman. like the post above, his wife should be the only woman he see naked.

He just recently unemployed. So I think he is stress out and use this naked webcam to get away from what ever he feel uncomfortable about. But this not a good way to solve things. His wife is nice woman, who does not know computer well. All she knows is working and home with her husband and kids.

Anyways, his life, his choice. It is their family, I am nobody to butt in. But this friend of mine dissapointed me. I know him so long since high school and he was not like this, only recently change after he lost his job.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 05:22 am
@confuse,
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the moral here to me is that a married man should not be on webcam naked with any woman. like the post above, his wife should be the only woman he see naked.


Web cam sites with naked girls available for live chats cost $$$$$$$$$$

Somehow I do not see him talking women in random chat rooms doing this for free for him to put it mildly any more then going up to a strange woman on the street and getting her to go to bed with you unless she is a hooker and charging $$$$$$$$.

Yes you can build a relationship over time with a woman on the net that can turn sexual even in real life but there is not a mob of women looking to show you their wears for free on the net or anywhere else.

jespah
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 05:49 am
@BillRM,
Exactly. This is a commodity and it is for sale. Even if his wife is not seeing the social network, has zero computer knowledge, etc., even if she does not keep the books and is given an allowance by him, at some point she is going to notice if there isn't enough money to pay for groceries.

I am also concerned about the children potentially seeing something. That is a very real issue.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 06:00 am
@jespah,
It is amusing that his friend is selling him the idea that there are groups of women in chat rooms who will get sexual over the internet for free.

I had have my share of sexual relationships that started over the net and it work the same as in real life. It take time and work to build a relationship with a woman that you are not paying for just as in the off line world.

Hell I met my wife on the net for that matter and I know what I am talking about.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 06:01 am
@confuse,
confuse wrote:


the moral here to me is that a married man should not be on webcam naked with any woman. like the post above, his wife should be the only woman he see naked.



And here is the problem.

This 'moral' belongs to YOU.... not every one else.
When YOU married, YOU said that YOU would not do this and in your mind you will never do this. But you need to realize that this does not apply to everyone else. You can not expect everyone to live like you, nor can you believe that the moral you decide to live by should be followed by everyone else. And that is probably why he was so angry with you. You are trying to tell him how to live based on what you think is ok. Though I do understand that you want to help your friend not hurt his marriage, and only a good friend would be concerned about that, but you do have to understand that your rules do not belong to everyone else. You are a good friend for being concerned. No one wants to see their friends marriage damaged over something as simple as that.

I think that to assume a man would never find another woman attractive, not have any sex drive with out his wife and not think of another woman simply because he is married is impossible and incorrect. A human does not stop being a human just because of marriage, but a person DOES stop having sex with and pursuing another person when they marry if that is what they agree to. Webcam is not having sex with someone else, but it can pose a problem for some marriages.

If the married couple do not cheat then they should both abide by that rule, but again, being married does not turn off the fact that he will find other women attractive and the wife will find other men attractive. We are attracted to people . Thats nature. And there is nothing wrong with looking at people, or even looking at nude photos so long as it is understood in the marriage, or not something that harms the marriage. .Just being married does not shut off human attraction.

The problem with what he is doing is that he is sneaking around and probably lying to her about it. The fact that she may NOT be ok with that is the issue. When it comes to that kind of deception, I dont care if they are fighting over food... it is wrong because it could damage the marriage. Not to mention, if he is with out work he should be spending a lot of time looking for work and not a lot of time looking for naked women. I agree with Jespah. That would be a BIG deal breaker for me , spending more time watching women then looking for work. People need money to survive, he should not be waiting for his wife to bring in all the money. He should have a desire to contribute to the finances as well.
confuse
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 06:40 am
@shewolfnm,
shewolfnm, I agree with what you said. But there are morals that it is right no matter what. Such as rape, killing, stealing. You do not go say that because you need to **** so you go rape woman. You do not go say that because you need to revenge and you go kill that person. You do not go say that you need money and you go steal someone money.
Same with morals on marriage, you do not go say you lost your job so you have the rights to get naked with women on webcam or watch naked woman on webcam.
I can guarantee you if we have a vote right now, majority people will voted that a married man go "naked" webcam with girls online is wrong, regardless of what the excuse is.
How do you feel if that was YOUR husband that do that?
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 06:44 am
@confuse,
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majority people will voted that a married man go "naked" webcam with girls online is wrong, regardless of what the excuse is.
How do you feel if that was YOUR husband that do that?


Somehow I am not willing to grant the people a right to judge my private morals by vote or by any other means they might come up with.
confuse
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 06:58 am
@BillRM,
you right, but this private moral is not about YOU only anymore.
When you are married is not just about YOU and YOU. When you do something as a married person, you must taken your wife and children into consideration of your actions.
If doing something you think it is privately morals right to YOU, but harmful to the children or hurts your wife, then don't do it.
 

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