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married man who online webcam with naked girls

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 07:15 am
@confuse,
You do not have a right to tell me and my wife what kind of relationship we are allow to have now that we had sign a piece of paper my friend.

My relationship with my wife is between her and myself and you and people who feel the same can keep your noses out of our life including our bedroom and my porn collection.
confuse
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 07:34 am
@BillRM,
BillRM, sorry my English is not good. The other post when I write "YOU" is not directly to you, but I give an example of how if someone is married, what they do, they should not think of themselve only and they should put their wife and children into consideration of their actions.
I did not write it directly to "you", you here I mean is yourself, the "self" of one individual.
And ofcourse, what one person do is between them and their wife and children, I do not butt in. Some marriages are more open than others, that is up to individual case. If one's person wife thinks it is OK of what their husband do, then outsider should not say anything, this I agree.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 07:52 am
@confuse,


my husband watches porn with out me .


I watch porn with out him.

It. is. no. issue.
He is not cheating on me, he is not stepping out on me and is not sleeping with another person. I have no problems with porn, sexuality or the fact that he ( and I ) will find other people sexually attractive. Just because we see someone naked does not mean that we are 'hurting' each other.
We have defined how we want our marriage to be. No physical cheating. Porn? sure. No problem. Porn can turn us both on and lead to great sex between us, or sexual release for the other person if we are not aroused at the same time or around each other at the same time. Sex is not a bad thing. Sexual release is not a bad thing.


If it is wrong between YOU and YOUR wife then that is ok. That is what YOU TWO agree to and abide by to ensure the other persons happiness in the marriage.

what my husband and I agree too is happy for us, belongs to only us and is not something I would ever impose on anyone else.

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But there are morals that it is right no matter what. Such as rape, killing, stealing.

I agree. Those three things are things that no one should do.
There are no 'moral standards' for everyone when it comes to porn and to pull rape and murder into the discussion of porn is really odd. i will not join you on that track of discussion. There are many outside examples of people doing things wrong in extreme ways to every situation in the world. We are not discussing those, we are discussing why your friend got angry at you for calling him 'immoral' for watching porn and frankly there are a lot of people who would disagree with you.

As I said before, I can understand why you are upset with him if he is ignoring his other responsibilities in favor of watching porn. He could be damaging his marriage, hurting his wife who is obviously a friend of yours too and that should never happen. That is a sign of a problem.

But I do not believe the problem is with people being naked. I think that is YOUR issue and that you may be actually turned on at the idea and that makes you angry because you think you should NOT be turned on by other people, by nudity or viewing sex there for you are lashing out at him for doing something you may well enjoy too. Again... remember... this 'moral' is yours alone.. not his and it is not good to impose that and judge your friend based on something as simple as that. If he is ignoring his issues and his responsibilities ( like not getting work) then oh yeah ! Speak up! grab his attention. remind him he has responsibilities to his wife and family, but dont judge him or hate him simply because he enjoys sexual content. Sex. is. not. bad.


(* the term husband here is used a bit loosely.. we are not yet married by the way Smile and marriage will not change this issue. This is who we are and how we work together. I believe that these issues should always be discussed and worked out at the start of a relationship and not left to 'silent assumption' )
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 08:15 am
@shewolfnm,
I met my wife in 1985 and we did not married until 2006 so welcome to the very slow to married club.

After my divorce from my first wife in 1981 I was determent never to allow any woman to be in a position by reason of marriage to cause me the kind of problems that she did to me.

It did wear off but very slowly indeed.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Wed 1 Jun, 2011 11:22 am
@confuse,
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I can guarantee you if we have a vote right now, majority people will voted that a married man go "naked" webcam with girls online is wrong, regardless of what the excuse is.
How do you feel if that was YOUR husband that do that?


And that's where you'd be wrong.

Most adults understand the difference between what is sexually normal and what is wrong. (like, having any kind of conscentual sex with another adult versus having sex with a child) Looking at a naked person, sexually or otherwise is not cheating. It's not morally wrong. It's not even minorly wrong.

There are a **** ton of other things this guy could be doing that are wrong.

Mind your own business.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 01:07 am
So....what is this porn stuff everyone is talking about ? Neutral
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Yukisa
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jul, 2011 07:33 pm
@confuse,
I agreed with the post, If i was the "wife" I would seriously beat the **** out of him if I found out that he is watching "internet webcam live naked girls" and chatting, its the same like meeting someone in real life, somehow u envolve feelings with that girl or not, but seriously.. if u are gonna watch and chat with naked webcam girls, WHY THE HELL U GET MARRIED???? shame on your friend..
bizzi
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 03:54 pm
@confuse,
I just found this post and was wondering if he ever stopped? I have a similar situation and have been deciding whether I should leave him or not.
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bizzi
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 03:56 pm
@confuse,
I just came across your post and I am in a similar situation and was wondering if he ever stopped....I don't know what to do in my situation because I don't know if he will ever stop and whether i need to leave the marriage or? So maybe if men do stop, then I have hope
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 06:52 pm
@Yukisa,
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If i was the "wife" I would seriously beat the **** out of him if I found out that he is watching "internet webcam live naked girls" and chatting


I think physically abusing your spouse is morally wrong.
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