On Voting Republicans Out Of Office

I can tell you that you are wrong Gung...

Slavery has been around as long as civilization itself...

The New Testament that was written 600 years before Mohammed and writes clearly of "citizenship". Thus if you are not a citizen you are a non citizen... Remember Paul the Apostle was a slave to Jesus Christ? These terms were in use long before Islam and Arabia was united into a country by Mohammed...

Romans 1:1
1 Paul, a servant [slave/doulos] of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

The Greek word for slave is "douols"... (yes the ancient Greeks even had a word for it) This verse was written 600 years before Mohamed was even born...

Doulos
In ancient Greece, a slave (δοῦλος)
Biblically it is commonly translated as bond-servant or servant, but literally the word meant slave in various nuances. [wiki]

Slavery in antiquity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_antiquity

Eat another one of those Rush/Beck lard brain and lie filled radio shows and tell me another one...

Besides the Muslims styled nearly their entire society off the old and new testaments that were derived from the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans who also had legal citizenry "thousands" of years before Mohammed...

History of citizenship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_citizenship

Wherever there is citizenship there is slavery provided the laws do not prohibit it. As you know, laws often prohibit it but it is still practiced. Even in countries where all men are created equal there are still classes of citizenry... India has a cast system that also goes back thousands of years...

The Bible simply treats slavery as a fact of life rather than an abhorrent practice.

Almost as abhorrent as blaming Muslims for things that long predate them and emerged at the dawn of civilization itself.

And as you know WHITE people have had slaves too... Even today white people pay illegal immigrants to clean their toilets and pick their lettuce... So white people are not above the scourge either... WHITE people can be dirty slime bag racists too, huh Gung?

Like I say, the KIND of slavery which has been seen for the last 1400 years is a muslim invenion.

In ancient Athens, the policemen were usually Scythian slaves. There would be voting events at which the only people armed would be those Scythian slaves.

What's wrong with that picture? I mean, some sort of a gathering at which the only people with weapons in their hands were slaves...

That only works if being an Athenian slave is so far above being a Scythian that it isn't even worth thinking about.

Oh I see, people were "willingly" sold into slavery before the Muslims... (cynical)

Before the Muslims, 12 year old girls actually liked being raped by their slave owners... (ONCE AGAIN, cynical)

People didn't flog and beat their slaves till the Muslims came along... (ONCE AGAIN cynical)

People ethically raped and beat their slaves before Muslims came along... (Cynical cynical cynical)

And if a slave was caught stealing bread they were pardoned because they were socially above everyone else... (CYNICAL!)

Thanks for clearing that up for me Gung...

JOSEPH is only 17 years old when he is taken down to Egypt. There he is sold to a man named Pot´i·phar. Pot´i·phar works for the king of Egypt, who is called Phar´aoh.

Joseph in prison
Joseph works hard for his master, Pot´i·phar. So when Joseph grows older, Pot´i·phar puts him in charge of his whole house. Why, then, is Joseph here in prison? It is because of Pot´i·phar’s wife.

Joseph grows up to be a very good-looking man, and Pot´i·phar’s wife wants him to lie down with her. But Joseph knows this is wrong, and he won’t do it. Pot´i·phar’s wife is very angry. So when her husband comes home, she lies to him and says: ‘That bad Joseph tried to lie down with me!’ Pot´i·phar believes his wife, and he is very angry with Joseph. So he has Joseph thrown into prison.

Comment:
This story was written at least a thousand years before the Muslims...

Ted Cruz Creates Sixty-Second Television Ad Filled With Blatant Lies About Obamacare (Video)
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/ted-cruz-creates-sixty-second-television-ad-filled-with-blatant-lies-about-obamacare-video/

more lies....

Being a slave has never been an ideal situation. But 3000 years ago, it was just another job description. ALL jobs have some hazards. Potiphar's daughter was merely one version of a job hazard. Bob Dylan describes a similar hazard (Rita) involved in farm work in the USA, circa 1965 i.e. long after slavery ad ended:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=binbu9UQwRo

Beware of those you may vote into office.

Don't recall Potiphar's daughter being mentioned in the Bible, gunga.

I think I understand, so when slavery is forced upon others by white people as in Greece and Rome it is a "job description" but when done by Muslims it is "slavery"... thanks for clearing that up Gung... Did your republican word smiths devise that one in one of their tax pay funded think tanks?



BTW Dylan is a masterful story teller... Thanks

But I will still get charged more because I am a volunteer firefighter.

There are subsides for people... look into that. Don't wait till the last moment. I really hope you get a nice healthcare plan. That is the whole purpose of Obamacare.. No person left behind...

Elizabeth Warren Delivers Dire Warning About the Future of the Supreme Court
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/elizabeth-warren-delivers-dire-warning-about-the-future-of-the-supreme-court/

Medical Reform:

The country does need medical reform, but not Obungacare.

The size of obungacare indicates to me that it is about power and not about health care. Likewise Mark Steyn notes that the job of director or head of public health has become the biggest govt. job in European countries which have public health care i.e. it would be a step upwards from PM or President or King or Grand Duke or anything else to head of health care. In other words, European health care is ultimate bureaucracy. If I had the power to I would institute a sort of a basic health care reform which would be overwhelmingly simple and which would resemble the thing we're reading about in no way, shape, or manner. Key points would be:

1. Elimination of lawsuits against doctors and other medical providers. There would be a general fund to compensate victims of malpractice for actual damage and a non-inbred system for weeding out those guilty of malpractice. The non-inbred system would be a tribunal composed not just of oher doctors, but of plumbers, electricians, engineers, and everybody else as well.

2. Elimination of the artificial exclusivity of the medical system. In other words our medical schools could easily produce two or three times the number of doctors they do with no noticeable drop off in quality.

3. Elimination of the factors which drive the cost of medicines towards unaffordability. That would include both lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies and government agencies which force costs into the billions to develop any new drug. There should be no suing a pharmaceutical for any drug which has passed FDA approval and somewhere between thalidamide and what we have now, there should be a happy medium.

4. Elimination of the outmoded WW-II notion of triage in favor of a system which took some rational account of who pays for the system and who doesn't. The horror stories I keep reading about the middle-class guy with an injured child having to fill out forms for three hours while an endless procession of illegal immigrants just walks in and are seen, would end, as would any possibility of that child waiting three hours for treatment while people were being seen for heroin overdoses or other lifestyle issues.

All of those things would fall under the heading of what TR called "trust busting". There would also be some system for caring the truly indigent, but the need and cost would be far less than at present.

By far the biggest item is that first one. I don't know the exact numbers but if you add every cost involved in our present out-of-control lawyering, it has to be a major fraction if not more than half of our medical costs. The trial lawyers' guild being one of the two major pillars of financial support for the democrat party is the basic reason nobody is saying anything about that part of the problem.

Other than that, you almost have to have seen some of the problems close up to have any sort of a feel for them.

Item 2, this is what I saw in grad school some time ago, although I do not have any reason to think much has changed. In the school I attended, there appeared to be sixty or seventy first year med students walking around and all but one or two of them would have made perfectly good doctors, they were all very bright and highly motivated. The only way the school should have lost any of those kids was either they discovered they couldn't deal with the sight of blood in real life or six months later they changed their minds and went off to Hollywood to become actors or actresses; the school should never have lost more than ten percent of them. But they knew from day one that they were keeping 35% of that class.

That system says that you know several things about the guy working on your body: You know he's a survivor, and that's highly unlikely to be from being better qualified than 65% of the other students; You know he hasn't had enough sleep (he's doing his work and the work of that missing 65%); You know he's probably doing some sort of drugs to deal with the lack of sleep... One of my first steps as "health Tsar" or whatever would be to tell the medical schools that henceforth if they ever drop more than15% of an incoming class, they'll lose their accreditation.

Item 3. My father walks into a pharmacy in Switzerland with a bottle of pills he normally pays $50 for in Fla. and asks the pharmacist if he can fill it. "Why certainly sir!", fills the bottle of pills and says "That will be $3.50." Seeing that my father was standing there in a state of shock, the man says "Gee, I'm sorry, Mr. V., you see, we have socialized medicine in Switzerland and if you were a Swiss citizen and paid into the systemn, why I could sell you this bottle of pills for $1.50 but, since you're foreign and do not pay into the system I have to charge you the full price, certainly you can appreciate that."

The guy thought my father was in shock because he was charging him too MUCH... Clearly whatever needs to be done with drugs amounts to trust busting, and not extracting more money from the American people.

Item 4. A caller to the Chris Plant show (D.C./WMAL) the other morning, an ER nurse, noted that much of the costs which her hospital had to absorb, as do most hospitals, was the problem of people with no resources using the ER as their first and only point of contact to the medical profession. She said that there were gang members who were constantly coming in for repairs from bullet holes and knife damage and drug problems, that they could not legally turn any of those people away, and that there was zero possibility of ever collecting any money from any of them, and that the costs of that were gigantic.

Clearly throwing money at that problems is not going to help anything either. Again if I'm the "Medicine Tsar", those guys would be cared for, but not at the ER or at least not the part of the ER where normal people go, and they would not be first in line. Mostly they'd be dealing with medical students who needed the practice patching up knife and bullet damage.

Far-right lawmakers freelance in Egypt
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/09/20402828-far-right-lawmakers-freelance-in-egypt

Do the words "traitors" or "treason" come to mind?

I see the republicans putting out NO alternative whatsoever... So your err, "tips" fall on deaf ears...

The repugs have wanted to simply repeal it and that is it... And then we go back to their corrupt, big business, corporate, stalemate, wrangling... NO THANKS GUNG...

Obamacare will do just fine as is with a few logistical modifications along the way... The republicans care as much for the healthcare of Americans as they do for the poor and we all know how much they love the poor...

As near as I can tell from reading, all obungacare amounts to is taking whatever healthcare normal productive Americans have and divvying that up between themselves and his own voter base. Anybody who works for a living will be paying substantially more and getting less.

" Anybody who works for a living..."

a lot of us work for a living, and are currently unable to get health insurance.

because we are not profitable to insure...

republicans care about themselves. period.