mysteryman
 
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Wed 12 Jun, 2013 01:07 pm
@RexRed,
Does this graph include children, or do they not count?
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Wed 12 Jun, 2013 03:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

The republican party is no longer the party that advocated for "less government intrusion into private lives." They're scary people, who would control other people's bodies and lives.

They're now run by crazies and incompetents!


I agree with most of your post, CI; it's the last sentence I disagree with somewhat. "Crazies" often may get psychiatric care and become sane in time; "incompetents" may be taught the right way to do things so they are not seen as dysfunctional. With the Teapublicans/GOP this is their core nature which has surfaced foremost out of fear of the changing face of the American population. This changing reversal of the voting American public has the Republicans almost soiling themselves.....they're so upset that they're unable to think clearly enough to make the right policy changes. They're still racist to a fault and don't want to budge on the Immigration which is now more of a border bill than anything else.

"In fact, traditional republicans are so embarrassed by the racism and hatred spewing from the Right-wing, pompous, uptight, and legalistic. ....The right-wing republican is described as intolerant, narrow-minded authoritarian."

The good thing, and the one that gives me hope, is that such a current Teapublican system cannot be maintained very long. It is, by its very nature, self-destructive. Their dependence on hate, will be their undoing. Because, like the animals they are, they'll eat their own as soon as things get rough. They cannot tolerate any views other than their own, so they'll attack any dissent or disagreement in their party... just look at McCain or Jeffords. The republican party will destroy itself. As they move more to the right to please the Tea Party, they'll lose the moderates.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 12 Jun, 2013 03:38 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
You may see it that way, but what I've observed is that republicans vote in lock-step on most legislation to defeat it; that's 100%. Fear? Where? They continue to vote against most legislation or filibuster it out of existence.

The American public seems to know what I know, and that's the reason their approval rating is at its lowest in history - at 9%.

I not only call that crazy, but insane! They're destroying our democracy.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Wed 12 Jun, 2013 04:17 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

You may see it that way, but what I've observed is that republicans vote in lock-step on most legislation to defeat it;


I do not dispute your assertion, CI, but most Democrats vote in lockstep with their own with this qualification....Dems do not vote arbitrarily. If the Dems see something is good for the American people they might cross lines; however, with the Gop, they deliberately oppose cooperation just to defeat Obama. If it were not for Obama's presidency a job's bill would have been passed a long time ago. The GOP do not intend to allow Obama to be successful if they can help it. It is fear that's driving their scandal mongering, hoping to throw mud on Hillary Clinton's possible candidacy in 2016. But nothing can prevent the Hillary train if she intends to run!

CI wrote:
Quote:
that's 100%. Fear? Where? They continue to vote against most legislation or filibuster it out of existence.


Yes, it is "FEAR!" True, before Obama, there has always been considerable opposition from the GOP but nothing like what we've seen under the Obama administration....the congress wasn't seen as a do nothing congress. We never had to fight to the bitter end to raise the debt ceiling while Michelle Bachmann, Chairman of the Tea Party, said "let the government fall!" It is fear of losing their superiority in government which is crystallized by the twice election of Barack Obama.

CI wrote;
Quote:
The American public seems to know what I know, and that's the reason their approval rating is at its lowest in history - at 9%.


You are right, CI. But the situation is more complex than just being contrary and deliberately oppositional. The Republican Party is afraid things will never be the same again!

CI wrote;
Quote:
I not only call that crazy, but insane! They're destroying our democracy.


No doubt, in ordinary informal-speak, one would use exactly the same language as you're using. The Teapublicans rigidness is motivated out of sheer fear of losing their hold on the presidency forever. The next president, if it's not Hillary Clinton, might be a Hispanic. Or a Chinese-American, or Korean-American....The US is quite diversified, many ethnics make up the American born citizen and now it's their turn.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 12 Jun, 2013 04:46 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Eight major US cities now have minority majority, and that's growing. It's because the migration from Asia and Latin America are increasing while white Americans are aging and bearing less children.

If the TeaParty/GOP are in fear, it's because they "know" they are racial bigots, and there's not much they can do to recruit minorities to their "party."

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/minorities-are-majority-8-major-us-cities

It's almost comical!~
Moment-in-Time
 
  1  
Wed 12 Jun, 2013 05:37 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

If the TeaParty/GOP are in fear, it's because they "know" they are racial bigots, and there's not much they can do to recruit minorities to their "party."


You are correct, CI. And not only are American minorities growing by leaps and bounds, they are quite fertile! At my weekend home in Jersey with a growing Latino community, you would be surprised at the number of Latinos with two children in tow and one in the oven. The GOP realize they ABSOLUTELY MUST change their policies to be more inclusive towards minorities if they ever hope to win another election. This can be done by being warmer and beckoning to Latinos, Asian-Americans, Gays and staying the hell out of a woman's body cavity. As far as African Americans the Republicans might get a few token blacks but the struggle to attract this ethnic minority will be more difficult. But the GOP will not need African Americans if they were more charming to the Latino, Asian communities, Gays and keep their mouth shut on social issues.
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RexRed
 
  2  
Wed 12 Jun, 2013 06:17 pm
WEST, TEXAS DENIED FEMA AID TO REBUILD AFTER FERTILIZER PLANT EXPLOSION
http://shredoftruth.com/home/west-texas-denied-fema-aid-to-rebuild-after-fertilizer-plant-explosion.html

FEMA has finally got it right! Smile

a piece of trivia

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 12 Jun, 2013 06:26 pm
@RexRed,
Hey, what can they expect? They keep saying taxing the rich is a shift of their wealth to the poor.

TNCFS
RexRed
 
  1  
Wed 12 Jun, 2013 06:34 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You are psychic CI, hehe, just came across this:

Destroying Ayn Randian Capitalists In Just Five Minutes (VIDEO)
http://atlasleft.org/destroying-ayn-randian-capitalists-in-just-five-minutes/
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RexRed
 
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Wed 12 Jun, 2013 08:01 pm
Michele Bachmann’s Biggest Accomplishment — An Impressive 75% Lie Ratio on Politifact
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/michele-bachmanns-biggest-accomplishment-an-impressive-75-lie-ratio-on-politifact/
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RexRed
 
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Thu 13 Jun, 2013 12:54 am
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RexRed
 
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Thu 13 Jun, 2013 03:00 am

I wonder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6bjqdll7DI
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Thu 13 Jun, 2013 05:46 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

Eight major US cities now have minority majority, and that's growing. It's because the migration from Asia and Latin America are increasing while white Americans are aging and bearing less children.


Hey, CI, below is an article in today's nytimes:

"Census Benchmark for White Americans: More Deaths Than Births
By SAM ROBERTS
Published: June 13, 2013


Deaths exceeded births among non-Hispanic white Americans for the first time in at least a century, according to new census data, a benchmark that heralds profound demographic change.


"The disparity was tiny — only about 12,000 — and was more than made up by a gain of 188,000 as a result of immigration from abroad. But the decrease for the year ending July 1, 2012, coupled with the fact that a majority of births in the United States are now to Hispanic, black and Asian mothers, is further evidence that white Americans will become a minority nationwide within about three decades.

"Over all, the number of non-Hispanic white Americans is expected to begin declining by the end of this decade.

“These new census estimates are an early signal alerting us to the impending decline in the white population that will characterize most of the 21st century,” said William H. Frey, a demographer with the Brookings Institution.

"The transition will mean that “today’s racial and ethnic minorities will no longer be dependent on older whites for their economic well-being,” Dr. Frey said. In fact, the situation may be reversed. “It makes more vivid than ever the fact that we will be reliant on younger minorities and immigrants for our future demographic and economic growth,” he said.

"The viability of programs like Social Security and Medicare, Dr. Frey said, “will be reliant on the success of waves of young Hispanics, Asians and blacks who will become the bulwark of our labor force.” The issues of minorities, he added, “will hold greater sway than ever before.”

"In 2010, according to the National Center for Health Statistics, more non-Hispanic whites died than were born in 11 states, including California, Florida and Pennsylvania. White deaths exceeded births in a majority of counties, including Los Angeles, the most populous.

"The disparity between deaths and births in the year that ended last July surprised experts. They expected that the aging white population would eventually shrink, as it has done in many European countries, but not for another decade or so.

"Nationally, said Kenneth M. Johnson, the senior demographer at the Carsey Institute, a research center based at the University of New Hampshire, “the onset of natural decrease between 2011 and 2012 was not anticipated.” He attributed the precipitous shift in part to the recession, adding that “the growing number of older non-Hispanic whites, which will accelerate rapidly as the baby boom ages, guarantees that non-Hispanic white natural decrease will be a significant part of the nation’s demographic future.”

"Professor Johnson said there were 320,000 more births than deaths among non-Hispanic whites in the year beginning July 2006, just before the recession. From 2010 to 2011, the natural increase among non-Hispanic whites had shrunk to 29,000.

"Census Bureau estimates indicate that there were 1.9 million non-Hispanic white births in the year ending July 1, 2012, compared with 2.3 million from July 2006 to 2007 during the economic boom, a 13.3 percent decline. Non-Hispanic white deaths increased only modestly during the same period, by 1.6 percent.

"The census population estimates released Thursday also affirmed that Asians were the fastest-growing major ethnic or racial group. Their ranks grew by 2.9 percent, or 530,000, with immigration from overseas accounting for 60 percent of that growth.

"The Hispanic population grew by 2.2 percent, or more than 1.1 million, the most of any group, with 76 percent resulting from natural increase.

"The non-Hispanic white population expanded by only 175,000, or 0.09 percent, and blacks by 559,000, or 1.3 percent.

"The median age rose to 37.5 from 37.3, but the median declined in Alaska, Hawaii, Kansas, North Dakota and Oklahoma. It ranged from 64.8 in Sumter, Fla., to 23 in Madison, Idaho.

"The number of centenarians nationally neared 62,000."


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RexRed
 
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Thu 13 Jun, 2013 04:20 pm
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1016298_616922181652097_493358354_n.jpg
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RexRed
 
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Thu 13 Jun, 2013 05:59 pm
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1003126_583564468343607_1571837614_n.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 13 Jun, 2013 07:03 pm
@RexRed,
Not only that, but this year's budget will show the lowest deficit since 2008. It's based on our improving economy that results in more tax revenues, more jobs, and removing most of our troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Conservatives don't understand math; only "NO."
RexRed
 
  1  
Thu 13 Jun, 2013 07:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Bush lost a billion dollars while paying Pakistan... How does a billion dollars just simply disappear but into the chauffeurs of the republican party? How does one lose a billion dollars? I would rather have seen the billion dollars go to feed the poor in India...
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 13 Jun, 2013 07:46 pm
@RexRed,
Me too! GW Bush was not only sloppy but dumb as a door knob. He still thinks he did the right thing to start the war in Iraq.
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mysteryman
 
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Fri 14 Jun, 2013 03:30 pm
Tell me, do you agree with the decision by the Obama admin to start providing arms to the rebels in Syria?

And when the time comes that they turn those weapons on us, will you blame Obama or still blame Bush?
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RexRed
 
  1  
Fri 14 Jun, 2013 03:44 pm
Rick Perry Vetoes Texas Equal Pay Bill
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/14/rick-perry-equal-pay_n_3443591.html
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