RexRed
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 10:41 am
CNN anchor grills ‘reckless’ AZ sheriff for publishing bus route of refugee children
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/16/cnn-anchor-grills-reckless-az-sheriff-for-publishing-bus-route-of-refugee-children/
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 10:41 am
@RexRed,
The religious just can't "see it." They push their religion on others that denies them the ability to make decisions concerning their health, because they're doing 'god's' work.

It's simply discrimination against others they don't even know or care about. Religion is becoming a terrorist organization. When they work to deny health care issues against people they don't even know, that goes beyond the pale.

coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 10:43 am
@RexRed,
Quote:
DOE: Quaker school can discriminate against transgender student


As they should.
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coldjoint
 
  0  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 10:47 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
The religious just can't "see it.


You have no idea what you are talking about. Nothing is being pushed. No one has been forced to do anything. It is religious doing what you don't like. And that is standing up for their rights.

If you wish to talk about a pushy and deadly religion it won't be Christianity.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 10:55 am
Scalia’s major screw-up: How SCOTUS just gave liberals a huge gift
http://www.salon.com/2014/07/14/scalias_major_screw_up_how_scotus_just_gave_liberals_a_huge_gift/


It won't be long before someone makes the claim, I am a "religious" atheist, therefore...
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:00 am
@RexRed,
Essentially, this is the uptake of that article.
Quote:
The upshot of the ruling is that Hobby Lobby and other businesses with conservative religious owners do not need to pay for what the Affordable Care Act mandates as full coverage for family planning. The public interest in affordable and accessible healthcare is not compelling enough to override the private belief that contraceptive methods including (but apparently not limited to) the IUD and the morning-after pill are murder. Well, I’m a pacifist, and I say that warfare is murder, and I don’t want to pay for it; and in recent decades the public interest in my paying for it hardly looks compelling.

Let’s go back to 2012, when the Supreme Court ruled that the Affordable Care Act’s mandate for the purchase of insurance was constitutional as a tax, to fund the public good of healthcare. The issue necessarily now shifts to whether an individual or a privately held company has to pay a tax for anything religiously abhorrent that is less essential, or only as essential, to the common good as women’s ability to avoid unwanted pregnancies, including from rape.
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Baldimo
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:07 am
@RexRed,
Another twist of a ruling to make it something it is not. They can try and withhold their taxes due to their religious beliefs but it won't hold water. The difference being that the govt was forcing a business to pay for something. If they think their religion can prevent them from paying the govt, then I would like to see them try. How long do you think it would be until someone didn't want to pay taxes for welfare? Taxes are different then things a private company pays for. Public vs private, there is a difference. You might want to look into it.
RexRed
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:27 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Another twist of a ruling to make it something it is not. They can try and withhold their taxes due to their religious beliefs but it won't hold water. The difference being that the govt was forcing a business to pay for something. If they think their religion can prevent them from paying the govt, then I would like to see them try. How long do you think it would be until someone didn't want to pay taxes for welfare? Taxes are different then things a private company pays for. Public vs private, there is a difference. You might want to look into it.



NO THERE IS NOT A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRIVATE AND PUBLIC...

Remember????

Corporations are people too!!!

It takes three people and a signed piece of paper to become a corporation.
RexRed
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:27 am
John Boehner Runs Away From His Unpopular Lawsuit Against Obama by Blaming Democrats
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/07/17/john-boehner-runs-unpopular-lawsuit-obama-blaming-democrats.html
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:31 am
@RexRed,
These three paragraphs from the article explains the GOP situation very well; dumb and dumber.
Quote:
Speaker Boehner was saying that he had no choice to sue Obama because of the existence of the Senate Democratic majority. Constitutionally, what the House Republicans should be doing instead of suing the president is passing appropriations bills then going to conference with the Senate, so that the House and Senate versions of appropriations bills can be reconciled into a final agreed upon bill. That’s how the budgeting process is supposed to work.

If House Republicans wanted to make a point to the president, they could make their cuts and then duke it out with the Senate. Since House Republicans have lost every big battle that they have fought over spending with the Senate, they are trying to ignore their constitutional duties by fleeing to the courts for help. House Republicans consistently dodged the reconciliation process. It took the failed government shutdown to get House Republicans to the table last year.

Polling has revealed that Speaker’s Boehner’s lawsuit against the president is very unpopular with the American people. A PPP poll found that 56% of voters said that the Boehner lawsuit is a waste of taxpayer money. Fifty-eight percent of Americans said that the lawsuit would not help their lives, and 63% believed that Congress should focus on creating jobs.
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Baldimo
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:32 am
@RexRed,
Sure there is. The HL decision was purely based on the govt forcing private industry to provide something they don't believe in. This has nothing to do with paying taxes and how those taxes are spent. Thus THERE is a difference between public and private. The govt is public, HL is private. Paying ones taxes is irreverent to that subject.

Based on the article, would you support someone not wanting to pay their taxes that go towards welfare and other social programs? This is an equivalent question to what the article proposes.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:33 am
@Baldimo,
You wouldn't understand the "separation of church and state" if your life depended on it! LOL
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RexRed
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:43 am
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10514683_788224407878709_4751163908328080385_n.jpg
Baldimo
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 11:52 am
@RexRed,
What is corporate welfare, does the govt write a check to these corporations?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 12:06 pm
@Baldimo,
You are pretty stupid! Look at all the tax breaks corporations enjoy in the US vs any other industrial countries.

The effective tax rates for corporations in the US is 12.6%.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/01/news/economy/corporate-tax-rate/

You're already in the stupid category. Why do you keep proving yourself to be the most stupid on a2k?

From the NYT.
Quote:
But by taking advantage of myriad breaks and loopholes that other countries generally do not offer, United States corporations pay only slightly more on average than their counterparts in other industrial countries. And some American corporations use aggressive strategies to pay less — often far less — than their competitors abroad and at home. A Government Accountability Office study released in 2008 found that 55 percent of United States companies paid no federal income taxes during at least one year in a seven-year period it studied.

The paradox of the United States tax code — high rates with a bounty of subsidies, shelters and special breaks — has made American multinationals “world leaders in tax avoidance,” according to Edward D. Kleinbard, a professor at the University of Southern California who was head of the Congressional joint committee on taxes. This has profound implications for businesses, the economy and the federal budget.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 01:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Why do you keep proving yourself to be the most stupid on a2k?


Again, is this your last post? No one can be the stupidest with you still here.
http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/agree.gif
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 01:56 pm
Quote:
Obama Plans 16-day Martha’s Vineyard Vacation on $12m Estate to Research “Income Inequality”


That should do it.

Quote:
Reports from the Bay State indicate that President Obama and his family will vacation August 9-24 at the 8,100-square foot, beachfront home of a Democratic donor that includes a pool, hot tub, basketball and tennis court.


http://liberallogic101.com/?p=13354&utm_content=bufferbc6ae&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
parados
 
  3  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 05:30 pm
@coldjoint,
Meanwhile the GOP House will be on vacation from Aug 1 to Sept 7, for a total of 38 days.

http://majorityleader.gov/Calendar/113thCongressSecondSession.pdf
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 05:37 pm
@parados,
ice brain 'missed it again!' LOL He doesn't even know how our government operates, and his only attack is about showing his own ignorance. Somebody said ice brain has "shits for brains." That's an insult on ****. LOL
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Thu 17 Jul, 2014 08:16 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Meanwhile the GOP House


The House is not the president, they are just the whipping boy to distract from an incompetent ( I think treacherous) buttmunch in chief.

Obama welcomes the turmoil. He can do what he wants.
 

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