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The Canadian one is really scary

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to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29

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* Sources for individual incidents can be provided upon request.

Christian attacks on those two days? Body count? Get back to me.

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@RABEL222,

How does it pertain to the subject? He is trying to create a bullshit argument and it doesn't fly. Figures you see it as valid.

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UNREAL: OFA Runs Ad Blaming “Tea Party Republicans” For Shutting Down WWII Memorial…

Why are so many people scared of smaller government, less taxes and term limits? And everyone knows every park(or memorial) that was shut down was part of Obamas circus.

Also the video doesn't show which politicians let those veterans in. They were from the Tea Party. More lies from the people whose never ending fear that government would be better if it did what it was supposed to.
http://weaselzippers.us/156317-unreal-ofa-runs-ad-blaming-tea-party-republicans-for-shutting-down-wwii-memorial/#sthash.22mZ8HGQ.uxfs

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Three years ago, on June 3, 2011, Representative Dave Camp, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, wrote to the IRS requesting all information—including emails and other communication—related to the alleged targeting of conservative groups. Ten days later, Lois Lerner, the woman at the center of the targeting, reported to the IT team at the IRS that her hard drive had crashed. IRS leaders, questioned repeatedly about Lerner’s emails in subsequent congressional hearings, made no mention of the hard drive crash. Earlier this summer, IRS director John Koskinen disclosed that thousands of Lerner emails—including many of those sent to executive branch agencies—were missing because of the alleged computer problems. From her first appearance before a congressional committee, back in May 2013, Lerner has exercised her right against self-incrimination and refused to testify.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/more-smidgen_796400.html#.U7_QFqD-jhk.twitter
The Weekly Standard says so Parados does not. Who do you believe. The reason and timing he gave is a lie.

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@coldjoint,

Too bad you rely on the Weekly Standard when you could read the ACTUAL letter.

The letter sent by Camp on June 3 had NOTHING to do with conservative groups applying for 501(c) status which is what Lerner was in charge of.

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/uploadedfiles/non_6103_ltr_final.pdf

Don't believe me. Don't believe the Weekly Standard. Read the letter for yourself. Then after you have read the letter ask yourself how it could be applied to any conservative group that had not received 501(c) status.

The Weekly Standard is lying to you, Pinkie. You are attempting to repeat the lie.

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@parados,

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This sudden and unexplained enforcement of the gift tax.

That unusual behavior is what is being questioned, and the 501c4 groups are complaining. Were these conservative groups? No doubt.

The least this proves is that Lerner wanted no one to see her e-mails and that it proceeded the crash.

And everything points to her obvious guilt. So what you offer is simply your interpretation of Camps intentions and that has little do with the facts.

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@parados,

Although someone was starting to look at the IRS for the crooked crap they were pulling. If there was purposeful destruction of emails, it looks like it started with this request.

Have you seen the latest info on the "missing" emails? An email has been found from Lois Lerner to an IT person asking if chats and emails were saved. If they were, that they had to be careful what they said in those emails. That is very interesting.

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"I was cautioning folks about email and how we have had several occasions where Congress has asked for emails and there has been an electronic search for responsive emails -- so we need to be cautious about what we say in emails,"

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She recommended that the agency treat these conversations "as if it could/is being saved [somewhere], as it is possible for either party of the conversation to retain the information and have it turn up as part of the electronic search."

This sounds like they knew they were up to no good and were afraid of being found out. It's pretty damning evidence against Lerner.

How long are you going to keep up this sham that nothing happened?

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@Baldimo,

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How long are you going to keep up this sham that nothing happened?

You are forgetting Parados is paid to lie, to deflect, to distract, and ridicule. His name, Parados, means a protective embankment. This alone shows his arrogance and what, and who, he is protecting.

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@coldjoint,

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This sudden and unexplained enforcement of the gift tax.

That unusual behavior is what is being questioned, and the 501c4 groups are complaining. Were these conservative groups? No doubt.

Actually, no. If you bothered to read the letter it was not about the conservative groups themselves. It was about the people that donated money and whether the donated money would be subject to gift tax.

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The least this proves is that Lerner wanted no one to see her e-mails and that it proceeded the crash.

It proves no such thing. Lerner would not have been aware of this through the IRS. The only way she would have found out about the letter was from Camp's website when he did a press release on it. The letter wasn't addressed to Lerner. Lerner wasn't part of the group that was deciding the issue on the gift tax. What you are proving is that you have nothing but **** for brains if you are going to make such idiotic claims based on the letter itself.

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And everything points to her obvious guilt. So what you offer is simply your interpretation of Camps intentions and that has little do with the facts.

I am hardly offering my interpretation. I offered Camp's letter. Feel free to point to where in Camp's letter he directly addressed anything Lerner was doing at the time that would have brought it to her attention. You are the one that is torturing the letter to make it mean something it doesn't.

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@Baldimo,

Except there is NOTHING in the letter that would have prompted such a destruction. It was about a completely unrelated matter. It's nonsense to try to tie the two together.

Here is the letter...
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/uploadedfiles/non_6103_ltr_final.pdf
Feel free to point to the specific things in the letter that you think would have caused Lerner to delete emails. Lack of evidence on your part doesn't create guilt. It only shows you are acting stupidly on the issue.

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@Baldimo,

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An email has been found from Lois Lerner to an IT person asking if chats and emails were saved. If they were, that they had to be careful what they said in those emails. That is very interesting.

No more interesting than the standard warning given to every government employee about being careful what they put in emails because it will be saved. The source you were promoting earlier listed the same thing in the warnings he received when working for the Bush WH.

A lot less interesting than the Bush WH setting up a separate email system to prevent the emails from being saved.

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@parados,

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It was about the people that donated money and whether the donated money would be subject to gift tax.

And if that group donated to was going to be audited. Why did you leave that out?

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It proves no such thing. Lerner would not have been aware of this through the IRS.

No Lerner was responsible for the actions taken. Did you see her title?

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he directly addressed anything Lerner was doing at the time that would have brought it to her attention

He was addressing the sudden change in policy, which was Lerners decision as the person in charge. And the e-mails would disclose the way she went about it. She wanted Congress to see nothing.

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@parados,

I knew you would point at Bush. It's the go to answer for the left when defending Obama. Don't look here, remember what Bush did? We can't be worried about the people in power now, we have to remember what those rotten SOB's did over 6 years ago, that is more important. Too damn funny.

You do realize how lame an excuse it is to keep pointing at Bush when he isn't in the White House right now?

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@parados,

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A lot less interesting than the Bush WH setting up a separate email system to prevent the emails from being saved.

Desperate? Bush is not the sitting president.

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@coldjoint,

Lerner has never been President. Nor has she ever worked in the White House or been in contact with the President.

The Bush White House actually was in contact with the President when they tried to circumvent the law. Your attempt to tie Lerner to Obama is as ridiculous as the claim Camp's letter was about Lerner in any way.

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@Baldimo,

I knew you would ignore the letter that Camp sent and not show how it applied to Lerner.

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@parados,

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Lerner has never been President. Nor has she ever worked in the White House or been in contact with the President.

I never said she was. And her personal contacts are not in question. Her job performance is. Have you met the president? You are just kissing his ass from a distance.(with pay) Are you saying Lerner didn't do the same.

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@coldjoint,

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It was about the people that donated money and whether the donated money would be subject to gift tax.

And if that group donated to was going to be audited. Why did you leave that out?

It seems you have reading comprehension problems. The donors were the ones to be audited not the 501(c) groups.

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It proves no such thing. Lerner would not have been aware of this through the IRS.

No Lerner was responsible for the actions taken. Did you see her title?

Camp asked who was involved in the small business/Self Employed division and who was in charge of decisions on Gift taxes. Neither of which involved Lerner. Her only association was in the decision of which 501(c) organizations to audit. Once they were audited, the issues involved were no longer in her division.

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he directly addressed anything Lerner was doing at the time that would have brought it to her attention

He was addressing the sudden change in policy, which was Lerners decision as the person in charge. And the e-mails would disclose the way she went about it. She wanted Congress to see nothing.

That's an interesting take on it. I'm sure you can provide us with the response to Camp that says what you just claimed. If such a response existed it would certainly have been released by Camp, don't you think?

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@parados,

While it didn't directly address the targeting of conservative groups, it does show a pattern in the IRS. Coupled with the new emails showing concern for Congressional investigations and making sure that emails and chats were not saved does not bode well for Lerner.

You are saying for a fact Lerner had no contact with Obama? How can you say that for sure? We don't even have access to all of her emails that have been deleted. You can't say for sure because you don't know. You are guessing. We know we can't take Lerner at her word, she doesn't answer questions.

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