bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Thu 3 Jul, 2014 02:41 pm
@Baldimo,
That's a dumb question. W never had the market higher than he inherited it. It lost almost a third of its value in W's hand and has done noting but go up in the President's. What planet are you on???
coldjoint
 
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Thu 3 Jul, 2014 02:43 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
That's a dumb question.


We know you know all about dumb. But answer the question about the QE.
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Baldimo
 
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Thu 3 Jul, 2014 03:00 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
It's only a dumb question if you don't want to be honest. My how we forget history. When Bush took office the stock market high was under 11,000. During Bush's term, the stock market hit a all time high of 14,000.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Thu 3 Jul, 2014 03:51 pm
@Baldimo,
When George W. Bush took office on Jan. 20, 2001, the S&P 500 stock market index stood at $1,342.54. The day he left office, it was $805.22, a drop of 40 percent. So he got it up $350.00 then dropped it $55o.oo. And President Obama doubled the number he inherited.

Yours was a dumb question.
Baldimo
 
  -1  
Thu 3 Jul, 2014 04:01 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
So you want to pick and choose? The stock market and not the S&P is what we were talking about. You posted the 17,000 and now you want to move the goal posts? Can you be more intellectually dishonest? You lefties are something else. I proved you wrong and you changed what you were measuring.
cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 3 Jul, 2014 04:23 pm
@Baldimo,
The stock market is only one measure of how investors have done after GW Bush.
Most have recovered their losses since 2008-2009, and more people are now buying homes and automobiles with better financial standing. Our net assets grew by 38% since 2009, and that's while withdrawing over $182,000 from our investments. If this is any indication of how the average American is doing, I'd say we're in pretty good shape! And the economy grew by 288,000 jobs last month, and the stock market was up with the DOW adding 92 points today.

Obama deserves credit when due; even while the conservatives do everything in their power to 'make him fail.' Approval rating: Obama 38%, Congress 11%.

Speaks volumes.

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Advocate
 
  1  
Thu 3 Jul, 2014 06:51 pm
@coldjoint,
Bush destroyed about 26 million emails associated with the US Attorney scandal. Should Justice go after him?
coldjoint
 
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Thu 3 Jul, 2014 07:20 pm
@Advocate,
Quote:
Should Justice go after him?


Knock yourself out. You are saying Obama destroyted e-mail too. Should we go after him? I think we are.
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 3 Jul, 2014 08:26 pm
Quote:
The illusion of a recovery: Unemployment drops as part-time work explodes

Quote:
"What we're seeing is a growing trend of low-quality part-time jobs," said Carrie Gleason, director of the Fair Work Week Initiative, which is pushing for labor reforms. "It's creating this massive unproductive workforce that is unable to productively engage in their lives or in the economy."

The spike in part-time work since the recession has been largely involuntary. These workers may have had their hours cut or are unable to find full-time jobs, earning them the official designation of "part-time for economic reasons." In June, their ranks swelled by 275,000 to 7.5 million. In 2007, 4.4 million people fell into this category.

So the good news, if you're an Obamabot, is the economy added 288,000 new jobs last month. The Real News though is that 275,000 of those jobs are part-time.


The media and the Obama administration are pounding salt up your ass.
http://wyblog.us/blog/economy/unemployment-drops-part-time-work-up.html
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 3 Jul, 2014 09:07 pm
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/JW_Infographic_v3.jpg

IRS Scandal Timeline

Credit: Raquel DeSouza, Miranda Watson & the Investigative Department
2009

February 3- The FEC asks the IRS if they have granted tax exempt status to Tea Party groups. Lois Lerner, former Director of the IRS Tax Exempt Division, “gave the FEC the tax returns of the groups, including income, expenditures and staff pay” on conservative groups American Future Fund and American Issues Project. (Bedard, P.,Oct. 13, 2013. IRS’ Lois Lerner gave confidential tea party tax info to FEC, violating law. Washington Examiner. Retrieved from http://washingtonexaminer.com/irs-lois-lerner-gave-confidential-tea-party-tax-info-to-fec-violating-law/article/2538263)
2010

March 10- IRS starts targeting on conservative groups applying for 501(c)(4) non-profit, tax exempt status. (Erb, K. P, May 7, 2014. Updated: Timeline of IRS tax exempt organization scandal. Forbes. Retrieved from http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2014/05/07/updated-timeline-of-irs-tax-exempt-organization-scandal/)

July 6 2010- Holly Paz emailed Steven Grodnitzky, an attorney in the IRS’ Exempt Organization Technical Unit, in order to inform him about how her department of the IRS has been “handling Tea Party applications in the last few months” and to notify other top IRS officials of the same information. Grodnitzky replied by saying:

“EOT is working the Tea party applications in coordination with Cindy, IRS Exempt Organization Unit in Cincinnati. We are developing a few applications here in DC and providing copies of our development letters with the agent to use as examples in the development of their cases. Chip Hull [another lawyer in IRS headquarters] is working these cases in EOT and working with the agent in Cincy, so any communication should include him as well. Because the Tea party applications are the subject of an SCR [Sensitive Case Report], we cannot resolve any of the cases without coordinating with Rob [believed to be Rob Choi, then the director of the IRS’ Rulings and Agreements].” (Fitton, T. May 19, 2014. Judicial Watch’s IRS investigation leads directly to Washington. BreitBart. Retrieved from http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/19/Judicial-Watch-s-IRS-Investigation-Leads-Directly-to- Washington)
2011

The Leadership Institute was audited in 2011 and 2012. They were “operating as a tax-exempt organization since 1979.” (Fitton, T., October 2013. Obama IRS scandal updates: Did Obama issue attack order against conservatives? The Verdict, 19(10), 20-21.)

The Clare Booth Luce Policy Institute had their first audit. They have been “in business for over a decade.” (Fitton, Verdict, October 2013)

June 29- Lerner learned about targeting conservative groups that have “Patriots” and “Tea Party” in their names. (Everyone knew… except the president? n.d. GOP. Retrieved from http://www.gop.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/everyone-knew_graphic.jpg)
2012

“The IRS scrutinized in 2012” 11 conservative and Tea Party groups; there was a BOLO, “be on the lookout,” list for these groups. These groups were intensely questioned; they were “asked for printouts of Facebook posts. And it asked what books people were reading…the agency wanted to know everything- in some cases, it even seemed curious what members were thinking.” (Fitton, T., July 2013. Judicial Watch investigates historic Obama IRS scandal. The Verdict, 19(7).)

March 12- Democratic Senators Charles Schumer and Sheldon Whitehouse, and others “write a letter calling on the IRS to scrutinize conservative groups allegedly masquerading as 501(c)(4) “social welfare organizations.” (The IRS scandal: Timeline, n.d. DiscovertheNetworks. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1935)

March 22- Douglas Shulman, former IRS Commissioner and Wilkins’s boss, testifies before the House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Oversight. He said there was “absolutely no targeting.” (Erb, May 7, 2014)

March 30- Democratic Senator, Carl Levin, writes to then IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman, asking “if the IRS has been sending out additional information requests to applicant groups, and he cites an IRS rejection letter to a conservative group as an example of how the IRS should be conducting its business.” (“The IRS scandal,” n.d.)

April 23- William Wilkins, Chief Counsel of the IRS, “met with Obama in the Roosevelt Room of the White House.” (Fitton, Verdict, October 2013) It’s unclear as to what was discussed in this meeting.

April 24- Wilkins visits the Eisenhower Executive Office Building. Both “Wilkins and Shulman are the only presidential appointees inside the IRS.” (Fitton, Verdict, October 2013)

April 25- “William Wilkins sends additional comment on the draft guidance for reviewing tea party tax exempt applications, per the IRS Inspector General’s investigation and resulting report.” (Fitton, Verdict, October 2013)

May 3- Steven T. Miller, former IRS Acting Commissioner, finds out about the IRS political targeting. (“Everyone knew …except the president, n.d.)

June- For the past 27 months, “not a single Tea Party-type organization received tax exempt status.” (Judicial Watch, September 2013. JW educational event exposes stunning developments regarding Obama IRS abuse scandal. The Verdict, 19(9).)
2013

March 27- Lois Lerner emails top IRS staff discussing an upcoming hearing held by Sheldon Whitehouse, Democratic Senator for Rhode Island. She enunciated the fact that the goal of the hearing was to target political parties. (Judicial Watch, June 2014. JW uncovers smoking-gun IRS records: FEC and justice discussed jailing Obama’s political opponents. The Verdict, 20(6).)

April 9- Sheldon Whitehouse holds a hearing where “in questioning the witnesses from the DOJ and the IRS, [he] asked why they have not prosecuted 501(c)(4) groups that have seemingly made false statements about their political activities.” (Judicial Watch, Verdict, June 2014)

May 1&2- Lois Lerner sends staff members multiple emails, “desperately scrambling to diffuse the emerging targeting scandal.” (Judicial Watch, Verdict, June 2014)

May 3- Steven T. Miller, former IRS Acting Commissioner, finds out about the IRS political targeting. (“Everyone Knew …Except the President, n.d.)

May 8- Lerner sends Nikole C. Flax, then IRS Chief of Staff, an email discussing the fact that she got a call from Richard Pilger, Director of the Elections Crime Branch at the Department of Justice: “He wanted to know who at the IRS the DOJ folk could talk to about Sen. Whitehouse idea at the hearing that DOJ could piece together false statement cases about applicants who ‘lied’ on their 1024s- saying they weren’t planning on doing political activity, and then turning around and making large visible political expenditures.” (Judicial Watch, Verdict, June 2014)

May 9- Nikole C. Flax sends Lerner an email: “I think we should do it- also need to include CI [Criminal Investigation Division], which we can help coordinate. Also, we need to reach out to FEC. Does it makes sense to consider including them in this or keep it separate?.” (Judicial Watch, Verdict, June 2014)

May 10- Lerner confesses at an American Bar Association meeting, that specific groups were targeted based on the title of the group or their political beliefs. She calls this: “absolutely incorrect, insensitive, and inappropriate.” (Erb, May 7, 2014)

-Lerner blames “’low-level” employees in Cincinnati for targeting tax-exempt organizations.” (Judicial Watch, Verdict, June 2014)

-Lerner sends an email to an aide relating to information for a Washington Post reporter. She states that she: “can’t confirm that there was anyone on the other side of the political spectrum [targeted by the IRS]…the one with the names used were only know [sic] because they have been very loud in the press.” (Judicial Watch, Verdict, June 2014)

May 14- Steven T. Miller resigns. In his internal memo to IRS staff, he states: “This has been an incredibly difficult time for the IRS given the events of the past few days, and there is a strong and immediate need to restore public trust in the nation’s tax agency. I believe the Service will benefit from having a new Acting Commissioner in place during this challenging period.” (Hicks, J.,May 16, 2013. Steven Miller’s resignation memo to IRS employees. The Washington Post. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2013/05/16/steven-millers-resignation-memo-to-irs-employees/)

-The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) releases report stating that in early 2010, “the IRS began using inappropriate criteria to identify organization applying for tax-exempt status (e.g., lists of past and future donors.” They also “delayed processing of targeted groups’ applications preparing for the 2012 presidential election.” (Judicial Watch, Verdict, December 2013)

May 15- An IRS aide writes an email to Lerner that cites “Tea Party Organizations,” “Tea Party Movement,” and “Patriots,” as groups that the IRS targeted. (Judicial Watch, Verdict, June 2014)

May 20- Judicial Watch files three FOIA requests to the IRS. (Judicial Watch, Verdict, December 2013)

May 22- Judicial Watch files their fourth FOIA request to the IRS. (Judicial Watch, Verdict, December 2013)

Lerner pleads the Fifth to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. (Erb, May 7, 2014)

May 23-Lerner goes on administrative, paid leave. (Erb, May 7, 2014)

June 12- “The use of BOLO lists is officially suspended.” (Erb, May 7, 2014)

August 9- Judicial Watch files their fifth FOIA request to the IRS. (Judicial Watch, Verdict, December 2013)

September 23- Lerner retires following an internal investigation finding that she was guilty of “neglect of duties” and should be fired. (Judicial Watch, Verdict, December 2013)

October 9- Judicial Watch files FOIA lawsuit against the IRS. (Judicial Watch, December 2013)
2014

April 8- The Ways and Means Committee says they will “pursue contempt charges against Lerner.” (Erb, May 7, 2014)

May 14- J. Russell George, head of the Treasury Inspector General of Tax Administration files a report entitled “Inappropriate Criteria Were Used to Identify Tax-Exempt Applications for Review.” This report “identified the targeting of Tea Party groups.”

June 13- “Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) issued [a statement] regarding the Internal Revenue Service informing the Committee that they have lost Lois Lerner emails from a period of January 2009-April 2011. Due to a supposed computer crash, the agency only has Lerner emails to and from other IRS employees during this time frame. The IRS claims it cannot produce emails written only to or from Lerner and outside agencies or groups, such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices.” (Swinehart, Sarah, June 13, 2014 . IRS Claims to Have Lost Over 2 Years of Lerner Emails. Retrieved from http://waysandmeans.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=384506)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/irs-anatomy/

Have at it Shills.
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coldjoint
 
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Thu 3 Jul, 2014 09:37 pm
http://soopermexican.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Kenya-attack-Obama-golf-1-1024x588.jpg
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Thu 3 Jul, 2014 09:38 pm
http://soopermexican.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Obama-and-ISIS-GOLF-525x300.jpg
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 4 Jul, 2014 07:22 am
@Baldimo,
I understand. Facts and figures are very confusing for you.

Georgy received 1375 apples. He picked 25 more apples, and had more apples than anybody else ever. Within two years Georgy lost lost enough apples to only have 800 apples after eight years.

Barry recieved 800 apples. In six years Barry had 1400 apples.

Who's managed the apple orchard better? Aren't you glad Barry is in charge of the orchard?

To me, a Republican capitalist and small business owner, its not a hard choice to make if you look at it without any extraneous discrimination.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 4 Jul, 2014 07:24 am
@Advocate,
AND these WERE destroyed after they were asked for.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 4 Jul, 2014 07:26 am
@coldjoint,
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/bush-obama-keep-golfing-f4B11244475

Bush to Obama: Keep golfing
By Domenico Montanaro

Citing the isolation of the presidency, former President George W. Bush says President Barack Obama should keep golfing, despite criticism from some corners.

"You know, I see our president criticized for playing golf," Bush told the Golf Channel in an interview that will air Tuesday night. "I don't - I think he ought to play golf. Because I know what it's like to be in the bubble. And I know the pressures of the job. And to be able to get outside and play golf with some of your pals is important for the president. It does give you an outlet."

Bush was no stranger to golfing during his presidency. Since leaving the White House, he has been largely reticent about his predecessor, steering away from criticism.

Bush didn't always feel even he should keep golfing as president. In 2008, Bush said he had stopped playing golf because of the Iraq war and the optics.

"I don't want some mom, whose son may have recently died, to see the commander in chief playing golf," he said.
First published September 24th 2013, 10:50 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 4 Jul, 2014 07:30 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 4 Jul, 2014 07:32 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 4 Jul, 2014 08:00 am
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Fri 4 Jul, 2014 08:03 am
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mysteryman
 
  0  
Fri 4 Jul, 2014 08:52 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Just a friendly word of advice.

When you copy and paste something that big, people wont read it.

Post the link, and a short synopsis of the article, that way people that are interested will read it instead of scrolling by it.
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