Moment-in-Time
 
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Sat 15 Feb, 2014 03:14 pm
@Advocate,
Quote:


I think we could be friends and share similar beliefs. I don't understand how you come down on certain issues, and I guess you have the same feeling about some of my beliefs.


Of course we could be friends....why not? The topic which I most gravitate towards is the Middle East situation, i.e., Israelis vs Palestinians, and in this arena you and I are at opposite ends of the spectrum. We disagree fervently, but not for one moment, have I ever disliked you as an individual poster, only your political views. You, in my personal opinion, are fighting for the survival of Israel whom you feel to be under attack by outside forces. I don't see this; I see Israel as a land grabber, refusing to compromise in this little area of space allotted to two groups of people, Palestinians and modern Israel in 1948 by the UN.

With regards to other subjects, i.e., social and economics, I find you astute, someone I agree with 100%. There is no such thing as perfection in our man-made culture, Advocate. I will take you as I find you. From a personal point of view, I like and admire your posts on other subjects outside the "Israeli topic."
coldjoint
 
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Sat 15 Feb, 2014 03:18 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Jeez, CJ...I copied the words from you.


The same way you copy your posts(without sources) from what is popular and socially accepted memes. You would think at your age you would be your own man.http://alien-earth.org/images/smileys/green-check.png
Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 15 Feb, 2014 04:13 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Jeez, CJ...I copied the words from you.


The same way you copy your posts(without sources) from what is popular and socially accepted memes. You would think at your age you would be your own man.http://alien-earth.org/images/smileys/green-check.png


Oh, but I am. Twisted Evil
Advocate
 
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Sat 15 Feb, 2014 05:08 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

Quote:


I think we could be friends and share similar beliefs. I don't understand how you come down on certain issues, and I guess you have the same feeling about some of my beliefs.


Of course we could be friends....why not? The topic which I most gravitate towards is the Middle East situation, i.e., Israelis vs Palestinians, and in this arena you and I are at opposite ends of the spectrum. We disagree fervently, but not for one moment, have I ever disliked you as an individual poster, only your political views. You, in my personal opinion, are fighting for the survival of Israel whom you feel to be under attack by outside forces. I don't see this; I see Israel as a land grabber, refusing to compromise in this little area of space allotted to two groups of people, Palestinians and modern Israel in 1948 by the UN.

With regards to other subjects, i.e., social and economics, I find you astute, someone I agree with 100%. There is no such thing as perfection in our man-made culture, Advocate. I will take you as I find you. From a personal point of view, I like and admire your posts on other subjects outside the "Israeli topic."


I respect your views. However, I feel you are wearing blinders when it comes to the Pals. In 1948, Israel begged them not to abandon Israel when the latter was being attacked by the Pals and their Arab brothers. Israel continued to beg the Pals to come to some reasonable compromise relative to the establishment of a Pal state. The Pals, in return, offered stones, bullets, missiles and rockets. Their offers in compromise would lead to the demise of Israel. But, somehow, you and your friends remain blind to what Israel is dealing with.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 15 Feb, 2014 07:51 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Oh, but I am. Twisted Evil


http://alien-earth.org/images/smileys/bullshit.gif
coldjoint
 
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Sat 15 Feb, 2014 11:35 pm
Quote:
Liberal punching bags, the Koch brothers, are not even in top 50 political donors in America


http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
Above is the list. And if money talks and fools listen I guess you can see why the liberal narrative is so prevalent. The amounts of money is staggering. And all aimed at one goal. Control.

They control the message already and following the book on radical thought are relentless. Not to mention extremely hypocritical. The flooding of the media and the internet is high priced. If the ideas are so good, why the hard sell? Not to mention the virtual shouting downs on this and many other forums. Buying weak minds and votes.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 06:42 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Oh, but I am. Twisted Evil


http://alien-earth.org/images/smileys/bullshit.gif


Not everything with which you are in disagreement is http://alien-earth.org/images/smileys/bullshit.gif, CJ.

When you finally get to a place where you can realize and acknowledge that...you will have become an adult.
Advocate
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 09:58 am
I don't know why anyone would vote for Romney/Ryan.

Romney had most of his fortune hidden away in tax-haven countries. The term "tax-haven" has meaning. Would you want to have a president who evades income tax?

Romney believes that 47 percent of the public are parasites.

Romney/Ryan had plans to end Medicare.

They had no valid plans for job creation.

I gathered that they would further shieldl the super-rich from paying their fair share of taxes.
JTT
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 10:10 am
@Advocate,
Advocate: Would you want to have a president who evades income tax?

----------

Telling when those are one's biggest concerns.

Would you want to have a president who slaughters innocents, terrorizes women and children when it isn't torturing and raping them?

Most Americans, though I must allow that there are numerous ignorant sheeple, seem content with such presidents. CI knows and he seems to be alternately content and conflicted. Frank loves it tho' he pretends otherwise.
... .
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 11:29 am
@Frank Apisa,
I did not say I disagreed. I said that you are no more your own man than I am a Democrat. To me, it is not a disagreement, it is a fact.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 12:04 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

I did not say I disagreed. I said that you are no more your own man than I am a Democrat. To me, it is not a disagreement, it is a fact.


Whatever! If it helps you to get through the day thinking that...go for it. And good luck!

coldjoint
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 12:09 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Whatever!


http://alien-earth.org/images/smileys/s849.gif
parados
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 12:14 pm
@coldjoint,
Gosh.. if only you stuck to current fund raising instead of going back 30 years.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/10/19/meet-the-5-biggest-donors-to-the-obama-romney-campaigns/
coldjoint
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 12:16 pm
Quote:
Conservative Blacks Talk About democrat Hate


There is the hate word again. But this time it is directed at the real haters.

Quote:
Now, these folks are marginalized, just like the rest of black are, by democrats. Democrats keep the abortion mills running in minority neighborhoods. If blacks are escaping the public schools, democrats are there to put them back on the plantation. And, if they start getting ideas about freedom, and speaking out, there will be punishment. Just ask Ben Carson, who has been hounded by the IRS ever since he spoke out against the President.

http://conservativehideout.com/2014/02/16/conservative-blacks-talk-democrat-hate/
A little talk about the real racism and who is behind it, and it is not the GOP.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 12:17 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Whatever!


http://alien-earth.org/images/smileys/s849.gif


Like I said...if this nonsense help make your life bearable...go for it.

http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/humour-blague/clown-jonglerie/clown2.gif
coldjoint
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 12:21 pm
@parados,
Quote:
Meet the 5 Biggest Donors to the Obama & Romney Campaigns


I am not talking about presidential campaigns. I am talking about the total amount of money. Try again, mother hen. And was defending the ever maligned Koch brothers. Going off on a different subject? Why?
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coldjoint
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 12:24 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Like I said...if this nonsense help make your life bearable...go for it.


And if making sure people know you are on the side of liberals with numerous posts with no sources makes life bearable for you, go for it.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 12:35 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:

Quote:
Like I said...if this nonsense help make your life bearable...go for it.


And if making sure people know you are on the side of liberals with numerous posts with no sources makes life bearable for you, go for it.


I am not a liberal...but at least the liberals realize that a safety net for people who cannot compete is reasonable. They realize that if the economic system in a country like ours cannot guarantee that a person working full time can earn enough to feed a family...then maybe that economic system needs lots of tweaking.

As things stand now, a person can be working a full time job and have a part time one on the side...and still not make enough to live a reasonable life.

But people like you are too busy worrying about your masters to pay any attention to that.

Hey...there have always been peasants willing to fight for the right of the barons to dominate them...and you are one of those, even if you don't realize it.

http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/humour-blague/clown-jonglerie/vil2_joker.gif
coldjoint
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 03:48 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
As things stand now, a person can be working a full time job and have a part time one on the side...and still not make enough to live a reasonable life.


Well ,then we ought to do something besides increase taxes and just give money away. This government wants people that way. They do nothing to deal with the actual cause of dependency but throw money at it. That is unsustainable.
RexRed
 
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Sun 16 Feb, 2014 04:09 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.

Harriet Tubman

 

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