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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
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I used to love you, but this is it. We're through. Oh, it was lovely while it lasted, my crush on your big welfare state, with its excellent national health service and its government-funded childcare. I liked your firm separation of church and state, your refusal to buy into the Iraq War, your mass demonstrations in support of workers and against the neoliberal agenda. And let's not forget the long vacations, outdoor markets, flourishing bookstores and high-speed trains! I even liked the fact that all your schools have the same centralized curriculum not like here, where local cranks and preachers get to meddle with history and science and cancel the school play. French kids study philosophy in high school! How cool is that? It made me so happy to think that there was a country where being intelligent and well-read was seen as a good thing, I gladly forgave you for all those boring movies where genial groups of affluent friends sat for hours over lunch in the garden of a country house.


And she can negate all that on the strength of these allegations and a few Frenchmen's world weary attitude to them. An " excellent national health service and its government-funded childcare" no longer a factor.

Sheesh!--she has it bad.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:23 pm
@BillRM,
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Two NYC cops was on trial for rape and Firefly made a brief comment about it on this thread and in my readings I came across the information that they was just found innocent.
Why should Firefly care? She has positioned herself as a cheerleader for the state, the state can do no wrong, we should do what ever the state tells us to do, words mean what ever the state tells us they mean....according to her.
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panzade
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:24 pm
@hawkeye10,
That's a great article hawk.
I mean it.
I agree 100%.
What's ironic is that it barbecues your poster boy for the evils of feminism.
And it skewers the fairer sex in France for being totally oblivious to modern feminism and it's arrival in the Twenty First Century.
How out of it are French women?
Good question.

To listen to the French you would think their system of justice was a model of defendants' rights, while we throw innocent people to the lions on the mere say-so of an accuser.

I think i don't need to point out the rest of the ironies here.
You've done us a great service hawkeye.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:25 pm
@panzade,
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What's ironic is that it barbecues your poster boy for the evils of feminism.
I posted it as a public service, obviously I do not agree with it. I want to win the debate if I am right, but my main desire is that their be a full debate, a full airing of the various positions with the people then making up their own minds, and then controlling their destiny. The dishonesty and general lack of debate on the gender conflict and sex law adaption to the modern era has gone on many decades too long.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:28 pm
@hawkeye10,
That's 4 times the minimum wage. For cleaning?? Surely there was something special about the job for an immigrant worker to be on that for cleaning.

What are the pot washers and cook's assistants on in the hotel?
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:34 pm
@hawkeye10,
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and then she gets tips also.


Yes, you mentioned that, Hawk.

Are you packing now to start your new job at the Sofitel or whatever the name is?
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:37 pm
@panzade,
Here is Firefly comment concerning two cops who had just been found innocent.

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Funny you should mention that, since two NYC police officers are currently on trial for rape. The NYPD is not rushing to their defense with the sort of anti-women attacks that you, Hawkeye, Ionus, and Spendius have been making. They, most of all, know that the crime of rape occurs--it is not a fantasy devised by feminists to toss innocent men in jail or put them through a publicly humiliating legal wringer.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:38 pm
@spendius,
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That's 4 times the minimum wage. For cleaning?
Yep, the pay is great. I worked for a Hotel Union out in California back in the 80's for a year, so when I heard that Ophela was a union maid I knew instantly that we had all be snookered with the poor impoverished maid from Africa story. Pay scales are difficult to locate on the web, obviously nither side has any motivation to advertise how well paid these workers are. I did however see that union Bartenders in New York City can make up to $140K a year after tips, and that doormen make over $50k a year before benies and tips.
engineer
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:46 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

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Was the maid really on $60k for cleaning rooms?
I documented $830 a week, plus she gets tips, vacation, overtime, special pays, and medical. We dont know that full cost of her package to her employer but it certainly must be at least $60K a year.....and then she gets tips also.

I'm not sure what the point of her pay is? Are you saying she had such a good job that she would never risk it by falsifying a rape charge? I've never heard she was a "poor, impoverished maid."
engineer
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:47 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

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What's ironic is that it barbecues your poster boy for the evils of feminism.
I posted it as a public service...

Appreciated.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:55 pm
@engineer,
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I'm not sure what the point of her pay is? Are you saying she had such a good job that she would never risk it by falsifying a rape charge?
I am saying that this storyline that she is a poor African immigrant who is just bearly scratching out a living so she is easily exploited because she would have a difficult time standing up for herself is a bullshit story. We are looking at a middle class worker, who had a union to stand up for her with her employer, and had job security. Her station in life is way above what the victim culture promoters claim that it was, she was not in a position to be easily exploited by a guest at the hotel.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 03:58 pm
@engineer,
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I've never heard she was a "poor, impoverished maid."
then you have not been paying attention, that story line has been trotted out constantly, that DSK took advantage of a woman who had almost nothing, to include choices, thus was easily exploitable fodder for the likes of DSK. Never mind that even the other employees at this hotel that he hit on did not feel that he was exploiting them when he asked them up for a drink. ...as I recall their take was that he is a silly, lonely old man.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:03 pm
@hawkeye10,
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that DSK took advantage of a woman who had almost nothing, to include choices, thus was easily exploitable fodder for the likes of DSK.


By my last count this poor woman is up to three lawyers but they had not talk about a civil suit over this matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:12 pm
@BillRM,
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By my last count this poor woman is up to three lawyers but they had not talk about a civil suit over this matter!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you know who the other two are? The first one looked like a ambulance chaser who is helping her for a bit free hoping to handle her suit against the hotel management company. I would expect one of the two new ones to be a saviour community lawyer who is charged to get her all the loot the state offers to victims, and that the other one is a lawyer to handle cashing in on her new fame in Hollywood, for her book, and to manage her contracts with the periodicials. The saviour community lawyer will also be keeping her in good position for her civil suit against DSK, but I expect that when the time comes to do it she will get a forth lawyer for that.

If you come across the names please post them so that we can verify her strategy. Obviously such information causes problems for the victim story line, so they will try to keep it on the down low, but the names are out there somewhere.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
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If you come across the names please post them so that we can verify her strategy. Obviously such information causes problems for the victim story line, so they will try to keep it on the down low, but the names are out there somewhere.


The elite of the legal community it would seem. Somewhat strange that a "victim" would need or draw this kind of legal power.

It would seem that the legal elite of NY state desire that DSK is hung.


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Attorney Norman Siegel, former director of the New York Civil Liberties Union, and former Assistant U.S. Attorney Kenneth P. Thompson, who prosecuted New York City police officers for the beating and torture of Abner Louima, have begun to work on behalf of the 32-year-old hotel maid from Guinea, according to Jeffrey Shapiro, who has been representing her.

Irishk
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:21 pm
@engineer,
Thanks for asking about the pay thing. I couldn't figure out its relevance either...and still can't. No one knows how much she makes besides herself and her employer (and the IRS). Everything else posted is just speculation, rumor and gossip.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:23 pm
@Irishk,
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No one knows how much she makes besides herself and her employer (and the IRS). Everything else posted is just speculation, rumor and gossip.


Normally the pay scale of a union is known.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:27 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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No one knows how much she makes besides herself and her employer (and the IRS). Everything else posted is just speculation, rumor and gossip.


Normally the pay scale of a union is known.
Ya, I documented that...what we dont know is how much she collects in tips, special pay, and what her medical plan is worth, but we can take an educated guess on that.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 04:35 pm
@BillRM,
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Attorney Norman Siegel, former director of the New York Civil Liberties Union, and former Assistant U.S. Attorney Kenneth P. Thompson, who prosecuted New York City police officers for the beating and torture of Abner Louima, have begun to work on behalf of the 32-year-old hotel maid from Guinea, according to Jeffrey Shapiro, who has been representing her.
Cool, Thompson is the Saviour Community lawyer but he can do the civil suit as well, bonus. Siegel is interesting though, because this indicates that she is concerned about the state coming after her. This might be as alleged by some journalists that her African history makes her not trust the state and the police, but it also could mean that she is lying and she knows that if she screws up she will have the state on her ass so she has a lawyer for this as a prophylactic.
spendius
 
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Reply Fri 27 May, 2011 05:04 pm
@hawkeye10,
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I did however see that union Bartenders in New York City can make up to $140K


Blimey!! That's more than GW Bush's salary as Gov. of Texas. Even Mr Obama is only on 3 times that.
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