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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 05:36 pm
@BillRM,
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As far as my lifetime experiences had indicated there is a large overlapped between smart women and good looking women.
True, but if you are smart and ugly then will you accept it or use your smarts to get the best reproductive partner you can ?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 05:40 pm
@Ionus,
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Appearance fees for talk shows, book deals, the tour circuit
Feminist hero....sure she did the wrong thing for a decade but she has accused him now, all is forgiven. I am sure her dance card is very full now, all expenses paid naturally.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 05:42 pm
@firefly,
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The maid entered a suite she believed to be unoccupied in order to perform her housekeeping duties.


That is an unsupported assertion. Who are you to second guess what she was up to? You're talking like a soft bloke. Do you not understand women at all ff? They have a calculating machine, about 1 metre in length, that works faster and more inscrutably than anything Microsoft can match. And if you knew your Veblen better you would know that immigrants are better than average at it.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 05:43 pm
@Irishk,
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How is the mission suffering? If DSK sustained injuries from an accident and couldn't perform his duties, would the world end? Not likely.


Sure you can throw a rock down any street and find a world expert on international economic that also an expert in running large finance organazations and have ties developed over decades working with similar people.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 05:45 pm
@firefly,
And as for the PR handouts of the SCU I could write it myself. Better than that too. They missed out how overworked and under resourced they are. Which is ridiculous really.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 05:49 pm
Anyone who doubts but that the feminists have completely destroyed the usefulness of the word "Myth" need look no further than the following tripe:

Joan Smith: Excuses for rape – men and the myths that won't die
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Let's talk about men behaving badly. No, actually, let's talk about rape and sexual aggression, the accurate descriptions of some of the behaviours that have just caused a media frenzy. Most of the myths around the subject have surfaced during the past seven days. I'm going to list them as a small public service.

It wasn't really rape. The Justice Secretary, Ken Clarke, claimed some rape cases are something else, such as consensual sex between an 18-year-old and his 15-year-old girlfriend. This has never counted as rape in English law; Clarke got it wrong, going on to cast doubt on "date rapes"and putting his fitness to continue as Justice Secretary in question
She's too ugly to have been raped. Sections of the French press reported that lawyers for Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the former head of the IMF, were shocked when they saw how "unattractive" his accuser was. Such claims are a further assault on the alleged victim, based on the myth that suave, successful men couldn't possibly have a sexual interest in someone who isn't young and beautiful. Rape is an indiscriminate crime, perpetrated against girls, women and indeed men of all ages, appearances and ethnic groups.

She overreacted. He didn't mean anything by it. When influential men misuse their position to grope someone with less power, their behaviour is reinterpreted as something less culpable. DSK has been known for years in France as a "great seducer" even though his aggression towards women was an open secret. A French journalist, Tristane Banon, broke the silence when she claimed DSK tried to tear off her clothes during an interview in 2007, but she was persuaded not to make a formal complaint.

He can't help himself. He likes women too much. The former governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, portrays himself as a red-blooded male who can't resist an attractive woman, but he's been accused by more than a dozen women of grabbing their breasts and bottoms. Schwarzenegger is a serial predator. That he had sex (and a child) with a domestic employee while his wife was pregnant should surprise no one.

It wasn't a serious rape – he didn't use violence. Ken Clarke again, suggesting that rape involves a man "forcefully" having sex with an unwilling woman. Rape is a serious crime whether or not it involves physical force. As with other serious crimes, individual circumstances are taken into account at sentencing.

It's a conspiracy. Sixty per cent of the French public believe DSK was set up. There's a parallel here with the accusations against the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, which his supporters dismiss as a dastardly plot to lure him to Sweden andthen extradition to the US.

He's the real victim. It was reported (wrongly, says her lawyer) that DSK's alleged victim is HIV-positive. This is a sneaky way of casting aspersions on a woman's sexual history, while the suggestion that DSK may need an HIV test turns the alleged attacker into a victim.

But after a week in which these myths resurfaced, something interesting has happened: DSK faces serious charges, Clarke is only just hanging on to his job and Schwarzenegger is being divorced. Even Le Monde accused French journalists of dressing up sexual aggression as libertinage and reinforcing toleration of sexual violence. "Libertines" everywhere had better watch out.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/joan-smith/joan-smith-excuses-for-rape-ndash-men-and-the-myths-that-wont-die-2287415.html
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 05:58 pm
@Irishk,
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Were I in his position and convinced I was 100% innocent, I'd never have resigned.


Of course he was right to resign. His story had become bigger than the IMF story.
Irishk
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 05:59 pm
@spendius,
Listening to you and the other two, he was bigger than God.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:04 pm
@Ionus,
I bet she's on sleeping pills. Her poor little mind must be churning fifty to the dozen. I shouldn't think counting sheep is much use the state she must be in.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:06 pm
@Ionus,
Smart measured the masculine way you must mean.
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:14 pm
@Irishk,
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Listening to you and the other two, he was bigger than God.


Not at all. If he had fallen under a bus we would have had to do without his expertise which was judged to be the best we could find. Now we are going to get second best.

We are doing without his expertise now because of an allegation which he denies.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:26 pm
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The fact is, so far we have not heard the voice of the victim, we have only heard what the police say she said. That's very different—especially since she is not a native English speaker (and anybody working between two languages knows how quickly translating can be betraying, as the Italians say—let alone in a police station!). And the accusations were so numerous, they seemed so extravagant—I still find it hard to believe that, in 28 minutes, a 62-year-old man weighing some 224 pounds can rape three ways (per the complaint) an unwilling woman of 32, pack his suitcase and (we all know he was naked) get dressed adequately enough to appear composed to a couple of French tourists in the elevator—that it was difficult for many of us to feel sympathy for the woman who was said to have uttered them.
The differences between the French and American judicial systems are at the heart of the misunderstanding. In France, we are used to criminal cases being handled by a judge whose mission is to examine all the facts, incriminating or not, before deciding on an indictment. So from the very beginning a police investigation is conducted under the supervision of the judiciary and the voice of the defense can make itself heard. Although plea-bargaining recently has been introduced in France and other reforms are in the works, French judicial culture is not one of deals being struck behind closed doors. When indicted, you cannot make an arrangement with the prosecutor to avoid a trial. As we say here, "Justice must pass" and, traditionally, the prosecution only comes into the light in the courtroom.
So this is why we frogs have been so shocked by what we've seen and heard last week. It is easy to guess why the sordid mix of sex, money, politics and conspiracy theories has proved so fascinating that, here, it overshadowed the Cannes Festival, as well as the announcement of Carla Bruni's pregnancy—and that even after former president Jacques Chirac's wife hailed the unborn baby as "the future of France" as if Nicolas Sarkozy were some kind of a king! But why has the event stirred up in the American press some of the most anti-French comments I have read since the same Chirac said no to the war in Iraq?
Societies do evolve and can learn from one another. A few years back, French cops used to laugh when the kids they arrested indignantly pointed out that they hadn't been read their rights. "You watch too much television," they would say, "you're not in America!" Today, French police have to comply with the equivalent of that section of the 14th Amendment. Is the United States above learning some of what the French system has to offer?

Nina Sutton is an Anglo-French writer living in Paris. The author of a book on the Watergate affair, she covered American politics for some 30 years, notably as the Washington correspondent for Paris-Match and Libération.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-05-24/dominique-strauss-kahn-case-from-france-flirting-groping-and-rape/2/

Are Americans ready to learn from other people who do stuff better?? Not usually, but we need to try dont we.....
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:26 pm
@BillRM,
Even smart women who are good looking can sometimes feel they have to rely on their good looks . No one wants to **** intelligence or ugliness . Good looks wins every time . It is just a question of how much good looks you think is enough before you go on to look for intelligence ...if you like intelligence....
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:33 pm
@Ionus,
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Even smart women who are good looking can sometimes feel they have to rely on their good looks
a woman who is smart and good looking will by definition of "smart" use her good looks to her advantage. We all know people who insist upon going through life doing things the hard way, they are egotistical but they are not smart.....they are also not normally idea people to mate or share a **** with either, good looking or not.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:33 pm
@hawkeye10,
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such as consensual sex between an 18-year-old and his 15-year-old girlfriend. This has never counted as rape in English law; Clarke got it wrong
PIGS ARSE !! It was called statutory rape . Note the rape word....Clarke got it right but here we have a feminist spreading lies and how many women will walk away with a feeling that affects their vote ?

Joan Smith is obviously another idiot feminist on a mission . I wonder how many idiots believed it because it sounds authoritative ?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:39 pm
@Ionus,
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Joan Smith is obviously another idiot feminist on a mission
Presumably, though I did not check her bio. I was impressed with her listing of "myths" however, and how she did not even go to the trouble to pretend that a myth is something that is believed but not true. Clearly to her "myth" is something someone says or thinks that she does not agree with our like. The feminists destroying perfectly good words by blowing up their definitions got out of hand a long time ago, but now it is gotten downright silly. Smith's tripe would make a great punchline for a joke...too bad George Carlin is dead, he would have been all over this.
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Irishk
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:51 pm
@spendius,
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We are doing without his expertise now because of an allegation which he denies.

He does deny the allegations, as do his attorneys. They said he couldn't have done it because he wasn't there.

The arresting officers and others seem to have compelling reason to think otherwise.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 06:54 pm
@Irishk,
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He does deny the allegations, as do his attorneys. They said he couldn't have done it because he wasn't there.

He was there. His attorneys now claim what took place was not "forcible".
Irishk
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 07:02 pm
@firefly,
Well, Spendius seems to think that whatever the allegations are, if the suspect denies them, the charges should be dropped.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 25 May, 2011 07:05 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

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He does deny the allegations, as do his attorneys. They said he couldn't have done it because he wasn't there.

He was there. His attorneys now claim what took place was not "forcible".
Says who, besides you? Gotta link??
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