Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

@firefly,

That criminal complaint's no good. It's not been signed, some bloody lawyer he must have.

@izzythepush,

You can't go by Firefly's posts - she doesn't even know the difference between an arrest charge and a non-arrest charge. Re-posting from previous page

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Case Information Court New York Criminal Court
Case # 2011NY035773
Defendant Strausskahn, Dominique
Charge Detail Disposition/Sentence
PL 130.55 00 B Misdemeanor, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
Description Sexual Abuse 3rd

PL 130.50 01
**TOP CHARGE** B Felony, 2 counts, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
Description Crim Sex Act-1st:by Force

PL 135.05 00 A Misdemeanor, 1 count, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge
Description Unlawful Imprisonment 2nd

PL 130.65 01 D Felony, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
Description Sx Abs:cntct-frcbl Cmplsn

PL 130.50 01 B Felony, 2 counts, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
Description Crim Sex Act-1st:by Force

PL 130.52 00 A Misdemeanor, 1 count, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
Description Forcible Touching

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@firefly,

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Once again, the legal question is: if that single arrest charge turns out to be unfounded

He is charged with preventing her from leaving the suite--by restraining her. How could they determine that charge was unfounded prior to trial?

Her passkey has an electronic stripe showing exactly what time it was used. So does his, but the allegation is that he attempted to lock her into an interior room, not that he closed the door to the suite, which locks automatically - that door opens onto an inner hallway, leading to the other rooms. The other rooms have physical (non-electronic) metal keys, which forensics has checked already but not published the results, which may take days.

I'm mystified by the hysterical tone when a simple legal question has been asked - and not yet answered. Find out what "arrest charge" means, btw..

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@High Seas,

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I'm mystified by the hysterical tone when a simple legal question has been asked - and not yet answered. Find out what "arrest charge" means, btw.

One would hope that the rules of the English language hold enough here to figure out the answer...that would be a charge used to arrest the man. The other charges were added later.

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Investigators have revisited the penthouse hotel room to cut out a piece of carpet in a painstaking search for DNA evidence, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.
New York detectives and prosecutors believe the carpet in the hotel room may contain Strauss-Kahn's semen, spat out after an episode of forced oral sex, the officials told The Associated Press.
One of the officials said that the DNA testing was being "fast-tracked" but that the results could still be a few days away.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110519/ap_on_re_us/imf_leader_assault

That would be the spot where the woman claims that she spit after sucking him off. Do we need to prove that they had sex? We dont know yet because we have not heard his version of events, but as with most rape cases DNA likely will not mean much here because the sex is rarely in doubt. What is in doubt is the nature of the consent, which DNA tells us nothing about. However, this does not stop the American "justice" system from using DNA proof of the sex as support of the alleged victim, claiming that it backs her story, when in reality it also backs the story of the alleged rapist. Normally the "journalists" commit the same slander.

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@ossobuco,

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Strauss-Kahn's lawyers called her "butt-ugly"

I wanted to refute this statement.

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Then why do you post it on a website with many women, on a thread with many women, of many heritages?

I got carried away with my experience.

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@talk72000,

Your contrite post is noted, talk. You are forgiven.

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@panzade,

Thank you. It was late at night when I posted.

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@hawkeye10,

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We dont know yet because we have not heard his version of events,

You must mean 'versions' -- plural. Like the other one...where it was said he wasn't even in the hotel when the alleged attack occurred.

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@Irishk,

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where it was said he wasn't even in the hotel when the alleged attack occurred.

Seems so far like a true statement, that he could prove that he was having lunch with his daughter at the time that the police were alleging that he was attacking a maid. This got fixed by the police changing the time, had they not DSK would have had an iron clad alibi, which would have been the proper defense.

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@talk72000,

'k, thanks, Talk.

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@hawkeye10,

So...he wasn't even there for the alleged attack, yet his lawyers are now arguing that what didn't happen (because he wasn't there) was, maybe, consensual?

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@Irishk,

Makes perfect sense to me....if you claim that I beat you at 1:00 yesterday and I can prove that at 1:00 I was having lunch with my daughter then the first thing I am going to say is "I was not there at the time, so I could not have done it". If you change your mind about when I beat you then I might have different answer, but I will always going for the sure defense against your allegations if I have one.

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@hawkeye10,

I wonder if Firefly has noticed that since yesterday Toobin has been saying that the idea that DSK is a flight risk "like Polanski" is "far fetched"? It was on Monday as well, but that did not prevent a preening female judge for sending him back to lock up on the assertion that he is.

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@hawkeye10,

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Makes perfect sense to me....

Not a surprise.

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@Irishk,

Irishk wrote:

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Makes perfect sense to me....

Not a surprise.

is that an insult or a complement? Go talk to a lawyer, if they are any good they will tell you the same thing I did.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

This got fixed by the police changing the time,

the police didn't change the time of the assault. It does seem that they didn't originally know what the time was - but they didn't change the time.

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You think you'd be as good a lawyer as you are a spinner? The defense team call you in for advice yet?

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@ehBeth,

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It does seem that they didn't originally know what the time was - but they didn't change the time.

If you can say that claiming one thing and then coming back later with a different set of facts is "not knowing", then that spin works. However, normally you cant claim that you dont know at the same time you are claiming that you do know.

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@hawkeye10,

Strauss-Kahn at New York court for new bail plea

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Prosecutor John McConnell said this was "unreasonable", adding: "We are in possession right now of only one passport. We simply don't know what other documents he has access to or what he could get."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13459753

BULLSHIT....if they dont know after all of these days it can only be because they dont want to know. We here see again the AMerican "Justice" system at work, not providing justice but rather coercion and intimidation.

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