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Is the Head of the IMF a Sex Criminal?

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 11:38 am
@BillRM,
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That hardly fit into what you been happily selling on this website

And you're still trying to sell your delusions about my opinions and beliefs, which have no connection to the reality of what I've actually said.

It also bears noting that DSK is known more for his sexual appetites than any particular sexual prowess with women. The fact that his overtures toward women so often seem to have been aggressive, and even harassing, suggests that women are not being easily entranced by his charms, or lack of them.

Probably most of what he gets sexually he pays for.

And now being arrested for pimping, even without formal charges or a conviction, really helps to solidify his image as a sleaze, because it's just been one sleazy revelation after another involving him.

I don't know whether he is or isn't a sex criminal, but he sure seems to be a creep.

And I doubt that he's found any of the various charges against him "silly"--they've substantially damaged his image and reputation and career aspirations--and none of them have been without some substance.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 11:53 am
From the favorite tabloid of Hawkeye and BillRM...
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DSK described women as 'luggage' in sex-party texts: report
NEWSCORE
March 28, 2012

PARIS -- Shamed Dominique Strauss-Kahn referred to young women as "luggage" and "gifts" in text messages to friends when planning sex parties, according to a new report.

Strauss-Kahn, who was charged in France on Monday with aggravated pimping and whose US lawyers are in a New York City court today, admitted to French police that he used "inappropriate" language, according to a leaked transcript of the police questioning, French daily Le Monde reported Wednesday.

"Do you want to (can you?) come to a great sexy nightclub in Madrid with me (and some equipment) on July 4?" Strauss-Kahn wrote in a text message to a businessman friend who also was charged.

The 62-year-old admitted his use of object-based words such as "luggage" and "gifts" was "not very sophisticated" but said it was quicker than listing out all the names, the report said.

Lawyers for the former International Monetary Fund (IMF) chief accused the French daily of quoting selectively from the document and said they would file a legal complaint, AFP reported.

Strauss-Kahn admitted to attending sex parties but said he did not know the women were paid to be there. He told French police he was "naive," Le Monde reported.

If found guilty over his part in the prostitution ring, he could face up to 20 years in prison.

The revelations emerged as Strauss-Kahn's US lawyers prepared for the first hearing in a civil suit brought by the New York hotel maid whose allegations of attempted rape last year caused a global sensation.

US prosecutors threw out the case last year after doubts emerged over Nafissatou Diallo's credibility, but her lawyers filed a civil suit seeking unspecified damages.

The Frenchman endured a dramatic fall from grace that cost him his job at the IMF and a shot at the French presidency -- and included a brief stay at the notorious Rikers Island jail.

Neither Strauss-Kahn nor Diallo were expected to appear in court for the hearing.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/dsk_described_women_as_luggage_in_uA6ImaStdsdYxW9NaIydPK#ixzz1qR16XAyo

So now people are supposed to believe that this very well educated and very worldly man, isn't "very sophisticated" in his language use, and that he's "naive" regarding arrangements with prostitutes? Rolling Eyes
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 12:08 pm
@firefly,
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Probably most of what he gets sexually he pays for.


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I don't know whether he is or isn't a sex criminal, but he sure seems to be a creep.


The logic there is that most men are creeps. Women have certainly cost me plenty in my time. Preying on our evolved weakness with their cleavage flashing, corsetry, split skirts and lingerie.

Perhaps we should all be surgically seen to at about 15 eh ff? Then you women could shift for yourselves.

Like Bob Dylan said in Isis--what drives me to you is what drives me insane.

I think you have got yourself into a prurient, puritanical, neurotic and obsessive confusion.

What about the women in these cases?

I think a cold shower is in order. Three times a day.

Did you ever get a glimpse of the auction catalogue of Madame de Pompadour's effects?
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 12:12 pm
@firefly,
In Soylent Green women were "furniture". I know it was fiction but was it inappropriate language?

It is certainly entertaining.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 12:13 pm
@spendius,
What exactly is it that the father of the bride "gives away"?
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 12:16 pm
@spendius,
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The logic there is that most men are creeps.

Not true. Most men are not creeps.

That's why this particular man is attracting so much legal and media attention--even for those in the circles of political power--his creepiness stands out.
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 12:33 pm
@firefly,
That won't do ff. You have a giant ad hominem on your hands.

Most men are creeps. So are most women. You're just trying to stay popular whilst making the argument against one man. You're a phoney. By sticking to DSK, like a limpet, you get the argument done whilst pretending to distance yourself from the rest.

What's your general argument? Is it that women don't trade sex for cash or some other benefit?

The dirtiest minds are those that dwell at inordinate length on vicarious sex. Maybe they are not up to getting the real thing eh?
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 02:02 pm
@spendius,
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What's your general argument? Is it that women don't trade sex for cash or some other benefit?


Firefly main concerns on this website is in fact had been setting up the rules that men and women must abide by under penalty of law is reaching such agreements on having sexual relationships.

With special note of how must the women can be under the voluntary repeat voluntary influence of drugs or alcohol before the deal is invalid or even how far the power balance between the woman and the man can be before the deal is invalid.

An after the fact declaring an invalid deal had occur mean that a rape had occur.

Firefly wish to be the czar of the market place of sexual relations.
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 03:03 pm
@spendius,
I have a higher opinion of most people than you do.

Of course, I don't count people like BillRM in that opinion. Laughing

By sticking to DSK, I'm sticking to the topic of the thread, something you have trouble doing. Revelations about him have been rather sordid in the past year, and who knows what he might be accused of next. It's become like an on-going soap opera. And the attempts by BillRM and Hawkeye to defend the man's dubious "honor" are quite funny.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 03:05 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

I have a higher opinion of most people than you do

LMAO!
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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 03:25 pm
@firefly,
You have no case legally ff. DSK is innocent. Your only point is based on hearsay, allegations from interested parties and bodice ripping journalism.

You're a puritan. A Pagan would laugh in your face. So would an atheist. Are you a nun? And a starry-eyed one too. You are mistaking strategic persona for people. Like Shakespeare said--we are arrant knaves. Take fear away either of the law or social ostracism and watch the buggers go.

You're just setting DSK up in contrast to your wonderful self and your very, very nice acquaintances. He's just a bit careless imo.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 03:28 pm
@spendius,
No, it's not hearsay, spendi...he's the subject of a criminal investigation, he's been arrested but not yet charged.
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Dominique Strauss-Kahn under investigation: Q & A
Former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn was placed under formal investigation on Monday by authorities looking into a suspected prostitution ring. How did they link DSK to a vice ring? Has he been charged yet?
27 Mar 2012

How did they link DSK to a vice ring?

DSK's name came up during a police probe into a prostitution ring that saw sex workers from brothels over the Belgian border being brought to France for orgies in high-class hotels in Lille and Paris. Some even are said to have gone to see him in Washington when he was still IMF chief.

What did judges decide concerning DSK on Monday night?

They chose to place him under official investigation for "aggravated pimping as part of an organised gang".

Prostitution is not illegal in France, but pimping is. Under article 225-5 of France's penal code, "pimping is the act by anyone and by whatever means of helping, assisting or protecting the prostitution of others."

The judges, however, chose not to retain potential charges for "complicity in abuse of company funds", meaning they did not think DSK was aware his friends' company funds were being used to pay for his soirées.

Has he been charged yet?

No, being "mis en examen" in French is one step short of being charged but means judges believe there are sufficient grounds to proceed with a deeper investigation, which could well lead to him being charged, or "mis en accusation".

What punishment does he face if found guilty?

A maximum 20-year prison term and three million-euro fine.

Has been remanded in custody?

No, he been placed under judicial control, and freed under 100,000 euros bail, but must not contact any of the other eight defendants in the case, nor civil plaintiffs or any media concerning the investigation.

On what grounds has DSK been placed under investigation?

DSK admits that he took part in some of these parties but denies any knowledge of the women being paid, as a police commissioner friend also under investigation organised most of the sex sessions. Two French businessmen also implicated have categorically denied DSK was aware they paid the women.

But judges suspect otherwise. According to French press reports, one of the women taking part in these sessions said DSK was doubtless aware she was paid, "unless he was naive". That would explain why judges moved from a lesser charge of "complicity in aggravated pimping" to plain "aggravated pimping".

Police also allegedly have mobile text message evidence suggesting DSK had inquired how much one call girl cost as he wanted to recommend her to a friend, according to Libération newspaper.

What are his lawyers saying?

They are calling for the cancellation of this decision.

Richard Malka insisted his client had never broken the law, saying: "Through this prosecution they are trying to create a new crime punishing clients of prostitution where the law does not provide for this."

He also suggested that Strauss-Kahn was being pursued because of his high profile and links to the Socialist Party just 26 days before presidential elections.

"As a result of behaviour that is purely his own business, Mr Strauss-Kahn has found himself – largely because of his fame – thrown to the wolves, by coincidence less than a month before a major election," Malka said.

What are DSK's former Socialist allies saying?

They're keeping a low profile.

François Hollande, the Socialists' presidential candidate and current front-runner, said: "It's a private matter. It's painful, but not something that I have to make a political judgment about."

Socialist party leader, Martine Aubry, said: "The page has turned. I have no comment to make today."

What about DSK's legal woes in the US?

His lawyers will be in court on Wednesday in the Bronx, New York for the first hearing in a civil case brought against him by Nafissatou Diallo, a hotel maid who alleges he sexually assaulted her.

Criminal charges were dropped after prosecutors came to doubt the reliability of her testimony.

His lawyers are urging the judge to dismiss the case on the grounds that, at the time of the alleged attack in May last year, their client had diplomatic immunity.

Does DSK have a political future?

No, and for the time being he is having great difficulty pursuing any career as an economist. He was due to speak at a European Parliament debate on Tuesday but cancelled after MEPs said it would be "indecent" for him to appear.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/dominique-strauss-kahn/9168954/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-under-investigation-Q-and-A.html
spendius
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 04:46 pm
@firefly,
I'm not arsed about all that ff. People have flattened out wood pulp with ink inserts in it to sell to droolers like you. And cathode ray tube decoders of electronic impulses beamed to an ariel in your vicinity.

He's a bloke. There's about 4 billion other blokes on this planet at the moment. There's millions of prostitutes. And as many lawyers on the make. It's a peep show.

Take a look in a restaurant on St Valentine's night. Do people get specially peckish on Feb 14th.

Can't you get a Jersey cow to milk? You're showing yourself up my dear and thinking you're not on the basis that A2Kers are thick.

I'm not thick. I know what you're up to.

Do you know how many chaps have no political future?

What does "see him" mean?

firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 05:37 pm
@spendius,
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Do you know how many chaps have no political future?

Yes, but this pearticular chap is the subject of this thread--a thread, by the way, I did not start. And currently he is under criminal investigation in France, and the defendant in a civil suit in New York. Those two cases are about my only interest in him right now--and it's not much of an interest.

Let me know when you come back down to earth. Laughing



BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 07:02 pm
@spendius,
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Are you a nun? And a starry-eyed one too.


Spendius I do not think she is a nun then however I do not think that any of us, after reading her postings, can picture her as being part of the beast with two backs in her whole life.

So a virgin and a woman who is androphobia seems the most likely classification for the lady.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 07:42 pm
@BillRM,
Laughing Laughing Laughing
What a pathetic moron you are. Even your cats must regard you as an idiot.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_83L6pycRHHQ/TLJm2otaVxI/AAAAAAAAAcM/GDemhJLVzNQ/s1600/LaughingCat5.gif
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 07:52 pm
@firefly,
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Even your cats must regard you as an idiot


Cats regards all humans as idiots and as a matter of fact that is part of their charm.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 28 Mar, 2012 08:53 pm
@BillRM,
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Cats regards all humans as idiots

In your case, they are absolutely convinced of it.
http://www.moonbattery.com/funny-pictures-cat-thinks-you-are-stupid.jpg
They even spell better than you do. Laughing
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2012 01:29 am
@firefly,
Well Firefly thanks for letting us all know that I had hit the old nail right on it head in any case.

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spendius
 
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Reply Thu 29 Mar, 2012 03:57 am
@firefly,
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Let me know when you come back down to earth.


Don't tempt me!!.
 

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