@cicerone imposter,
Quote:That's about how much influence the UN has in today's world.
There's nothing I can say which would change your mind, c.i.
You are unwilling to even
consider things could ever be different, but others who want a more effective global body
are.
That's basically what it boils down to.
Yes, I'm well aware of why the UN failed to stop the Iraq debacle ... but if some UN member nations (especially powerful ones) are determined to have their own way (& create a war) there's nothing the other member countries can effectively do to stop them. There was nothing all of us who marched on the streets in our millions in opposition to the planned invasion could do to change Bush & co's decision, either.
Quote:The reason I'm not ready to talk about "charter change," is because it doesn't change what makes them powerless today.
Obviously I & those pushing for UN reform disagree with you on that.
Or are at least
willing to try to make the organization more effective than it has been.
Quote:Syria is almost next door to Europe, but they're not doing anything either. Why should the US get involved in an intractable war that will cost US lives and treasure? Our economy is also hurting.
Who has suggested that the US become involved in a war in Syria?
Certainly not me!
God forbid!
Escalate what could well become a civil war into another full scale war?
That would most likely be an even bigger disaster for Syrian civilians than their current circumstances. I honestly don't think the world has much stomach for any more Iraqs or Afghanistans.
Quote:There's a world of difference between being a member of the UN vs what the community of nations can do to stop people like the leader of Syria. The UN can't involve the military of all the countries who are members. Individual members must "volunteer" to get involved. None seem forthcoming.
None have been
asked to be forthcoming.
The UN has not called for any member countries to be involved in a Syrian war. It's charter is to attempt to find peaceful resolutions amongst its members. Alternatives to war.
But, obviously, when dealing with an Assad, that is no easy task.
It may even be an impossible task.