Bonds Convicted

In other words, just how the **** can you say with conviction that pot doesn't harm anyone?

I find that statement as another example of your tendency of late to make broad unqualified statements as if they are empirical fact.

I haven't seen convincing evidence that it does, either from an anecdotal level or a research level. I think there are people who have problems with it, but no more so than ciggies or alcohol, other drugs which are considered socially acceptable.

Whoa big fella. What is being "socially acceptable" doing in an exchange about what absolutely is or is not harmful to people?

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I haven't seen convincing evidence that it does, either from an anecdotal level or a research level. I think there are people who have problems with it, but no more so than ciggies or alcohol, other drugs which are considered socially acceptable.

Whoa big fella. What is being "socially acceptable" doing in an exchange about what absolutely is or is not harmful to people? If I didn't think much more of your reasoning abilities, I'd think you were trying to slide in a total non sequiter to enhance your argument. You know dang well there's a whole world of "socially acceptable" items and practices that aren't good for you.

In the case of Bonds, the behavior is odious in my mind, because he wasn't using drugs for his own enjoyment, he was using them to cheat. He's no different than a guy who is caught with an ace up his sleeve, or someone who corks their bat.

... but the point is what damage do these practices do to society-at-large. Corking the bat does precious little damage to society-at-large, even though it's cheating. A far bigger daamge is PEDs as it relates to a practicve thaty is not only cheating but it represents a real danger and a potential physical damage that breaks a legal contract agreed upon and the poor example set forth to child athletics.

Former San Francisco Giants outfielder Barry Bonds, whose record for most home runs in Major League Baseball has been under a cloud, was found guilty of obstruction of justice by a jury.

After eight years and millions of dollars. Was it worth congress's time and our money?

CNN) -- Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds were long considered first ballot Hall of Famers, but the steroids scandal that has dominated baseball since the '90s has destroyed their reputations and could very well keep them out of Cooperstown.
Clemens is spending his days in a federal court in Washington accused of lying to Congress about his own steroid use. Bonds is appealing an April conviction of obstruction of justice for giving an evasive answer to a grand jury, but was acquitted on the more serious charges.
What's amazing is that federal prosecutors have spent years going after Bonds and Clemens, and at best, all they are going after them on is supposedly lying to a grand jury or Congress? Don't get me wrong, we are supposed to tell the truth and nothing but the truth, but looking at the amount of time and dollars spent by the feds on these two baseball players, you would think they were drug kingpins.
Yet while this is going on, the biggest crooks in the world, who almost singlehandedly took down the United States economy with their shady banking practices, are kicking it in their private suites at the baseball park, enjoying the huge bonuses that continue to flow on Wall Street.
Lady Justice is supposed to be blind. But if you screw millions of Americans out of billions of dollars, and force the federal government to bail your firm out with billions of dollars, then prosecutors won't even bother to knock on your door. But lie to a grand jury about injecting yourself with steroids? Your world will be turned upside down!
This really shouldn't be an either/or scenario. But with the nation's unemployment rate at 9.2% and the country still trying to dig itself out of a cataclysmic situation that culminated in the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, surely the American people should get some satisfaction out of seeing Wall Street fat cats walk the perp walk and have to answer to their activities in court.
But we don't see any of that. Instead, all we see today are federal prosecutors talking about baseball and syringes, and Casey Anthony's attorneys gloating about getting their girl off.
It is unfathomable to think that Wall Street executives are getting off scot free and continue to get million-dollar bonuses. It's shameful to listen to them whine about the clamps being put on them by federal regulations, when it was lax oversight and the total relaxation of rules that allowed them to go haywire, all in a search for quarterly profits to boost their personal wealth, and sink ours.
It's degrading to watch Wall Street's protectors in Washington -- Democrats and Republicans -- cry mightily about onerous regulations and suggest that anything meant to protect consumers from these dastardly devils is a "jobs crusher."
Sorry, folks, I really don't care about Roger Clemens and Barry Bonds and steroids. Spend all day if you like arguing about the integrity of the game. What's more important is the integrity of the legal system, where there is supposed to be fairness in going after wrongdoing.
The feds have fulfilled their obligations with baseball. And they have struck out when it comes to holding Wall Street accountable.