plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2011 06:15 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Quote:
No, he's not a supporter of capitalism. He's greasing the skids for his cronies at the expense of the American people. You don't see that, do you!


Apparently, you fail to see what is going on and to know what capitalism is.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2011 06:16 pm
Maybe if the government stopped paying mercenaries to run its wars, it could balance its budget.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2011 06:19 pm
@plainoldme,
It amazes me that our government can wage war at the drop of a hat and get instantly funded, as much money as they care to ask for.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2011 06:24 pm
@plainoldme,
Well wishes for your son from me too. And for you, back home worrying.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2011 06:28 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
I posted a long time ago that I believe that people who have more to protect should pay more in taxes. It works the same way when one buys car inurance and home insurance. The more they are worth the more you have to pay for protection. Someone who makes 30 million dollars should pay more for their protection than someone who makes $30,000. What you posted is a mathmatical lie. I know that the idea is to snow the common man which conseratives are expert at.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2011 06:49 pm
@ossobuco,
Thank you, as well.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2011 06:51 pm
@RABEL222,
Good point.

One thing I have to say about the right: while they once hid behind the lie of trickle down economics, they now are close to admitting they're simply selfish "greedheads."
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2011 09:39 pm
Plain Old Me,
Best Wishes from me to you and your son who's downrange, as well.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 17 Apr, 2011 10:05 pm
@snood,
Thanks, snood. I hadn't wanted to talk about it much. He's been there for two months and has a little girl on the way, ready to debut in May.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 05:44 pm
@edgarblythe,
As opposed to the sort who like to pile on when a Republican is being criticized?

How about the sort who criticize all Republicans simply because they are Republicans?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 06:01 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I only occasionally visit most political threads from time to time. This thread was not originated for the purpose of fighting it out with the oppopsition. However, have at it if that's what you are determined to do.

I personally don't criticise Republicans for being Republicans. I do so because I am outraged at the fundamentalism that drives their actions these days.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 06:02 pm
@edgarblythe,
By "fundamentalism", do you mean going back to the Constitution and lower taxes? That's pretty fundamental.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 06:10 pm
My mother was a republican - I don't just dismiss republicans in general. Some specific ones, yeah.

You know that Finn, so stop with the broad brush.
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 06:25 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

I knew this thread would likely attract the sorts that like to pile on when a Democrat is being criticised.

Quite right. As a general rule, when liberals criticize conservative leaders, conservatives take the opportunity to criticize liberal leaders, and when liberals criticize liberal leaders, conservatives take the opportunity to criticize liberal leaders. I started a thread in advance of the 2008 election for supporters of Obama to express their disagreements with their candidates. I invited supporters of McCain to start their own thread about their disagreements with their candidate, but, of course, they would have none of it. That didn't stop some of them, however, from piling on Obama in my thread -- and, I'll note, Finn was the first to hop on.

Eventually, though, conservatives manage to express some hesitant disapproval of their own leaders. It just happens after they leave office. I was surprised with the number of conservatives who courageously stepped forward to criticize GW Bush after Jan. 20, 2009. It was like someone had flipped a switch.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 06:37 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

By "fundamentalism", do you mean going back to the Constitution and lower taxes? That's pretty fundamental.

As in irreducible density.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  0  
Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 06:41 pm
@edgarblythe,
All I know is those founding fathers were pretty smart guys and I think it's a good idea to get back to basics. I went to a Tea Party on Saturday in Spokane, Washington. You wouldn't believe it, but the first speaker spent about 15 minutes speaking for reforming marijuana laws. He said the government has no business telling people they can't smoke a weed that grows in their back yard.

That almost sounds "progressive".
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 06:57 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
The founding fathers did not set up the Constitution in the exact form it exists today. That is because they knew that situations change and our needs also change and made provisions to add amendments. Those benevolent guys originally set it up so that we could have slaves, disenfranchise women, allow only property owners to vote, etc. But they did not set it all in stone, which is why we will never return to the original concept, no matter which party rules.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  0  
Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 07:04 pm
@edgarblythe,
I understand what you're talking about. What I'm talking about is our right to gather peacably and speak out for lower taxes. I don't think The American people should find that so dangerous to our nation. Why all the anger and hate directed towards these Americans?
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 07:11 pm
This is beautiful, man. Look at the expression on his face. I can almost see smoke coming out of his ears.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/04/obama-to-reporter-let-me-finish-my-answers-next-time-/1
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Reply Tue 19 Apr, 2011 07:31 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Democrats do not argue against peaceful assemby and free speech. They do speak against dismantling the government and balancing the budget on the backs of the real taxpayers, the middle and lower classes.

(Check back to the last Bush administration to see how Republicans believe in peaceful assembly for other than their own and report what you find.)
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