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Is Obama Creating Terrorists?

 
 
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 03:54 pm
@djjd62,
Shall we give Iran half of our nuclear arsenal so we are even? Is that what you want?
ossobuco
 
  1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 04:10 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
I think of myself as middle, re left and right in the wider world, but in terms of american politics, I'm waay left. Not all of us are pro this intervention. Oh, and I'm an Obama voter. And the left - right dichotomy is getting rather threadbare as a way to look at people's views.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 04:16 pm
@ossobuco,
Do you think BO is creating terrorists by leaving Gitmo open and invading a muslim nation that didn't attack us? That is what he said about Bush.
Irishk
 
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Sat 26 Mar, 2011 04:33 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:
Why is Libya in our national interest and not other nations where uprisings are happening?


I'm not convinced it is. You asked 'why Libya' and I just listed the reasons the president gave. When he was in South America.

Quote:
"The American people and the United States have an interest, first of all, in making sure that where a brutal dictator is threatening his people, and saying he will show no mercy and go door-to-door and hunt people down and we have the capacity under international sanction to do something about that, I think it's in America's national interest to do something about that."

"We will not be in the lead," Obama said, "We have unique capabilities. We came in up front, fairly heavily, fairly substantially and at considerable risk to our military personnel. And when this transition takes place, it's not going to be our planes maintaining the no-fly zone. It is not going to be our ships that are necessarily involved in enforcing the arms embargo."


I think the Pentagon said we're sending more planes for more bombing, though.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 05:16 pm
@Irishk,
BO didn't tell us why it was in out national interests in Libya, but why it isn't in Iran, Syria, etc. That's my question. Do you have the answer? I need more than "Because Obama said so".
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JPB
 
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Sat 26 Mar, 2011 05:28 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Since when does the Arab Leaque dictate US foreign policy?
Who said anything about dictating? They requested a no fly zone be implemented by the international community. We, along with most of the rest of the world, decided it was necessary to intervene. I don't think we would have done so in the absence of that request from the AL.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 05:35 pm
@JPB,
That's my point. Since when do we jump when the AL asks for us to? Do we only intervene when they okay it? Doesn't sound like good foreign policy to me.

Why don't we intervene in Syria and Iran? Libya wasn't a threat to us. That was Obama's criticism of Bush. Iraq never attacked us and neither did Libya. You don't see any hypocrisy?
JPB
 
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Sat 26 Mar, 2011 05:38 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Jump? There was no jumping. How many Lybians died while the international community chewed the fat?
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 05:40 pm
@JPB,
That's my point. Syrians are dying. Iranians are dying. A bunch of Egyptians died. Others are dying in the ME. Why Libya? They never attacked us. Obama condemned Bush for invading Iraq because they never attacked us and here he goes and does the same thing. Obama is hypocrite.
JPB
 
  2  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 05:49 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
You're either being intentionally obtuse or you're simply dense. I already said that ALL presidents are hypocrites by some measure. This one doesn't trip my hypocracy meter but whatever floats your boat.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 05:54 pm
@JPB,
So when Bush does it then it's Bush's fault. When Obama does it then it's okay because they all do it. Got it.

I want to know WHY Libya and not Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Iran, etc. WHY?
JPB
 
  2  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 05:56 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
I vote intentionally obtuse.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 06:00 pm
@JPB,
That's because you can't answer my question. Why Libya and not the other nations with uprisings in the ME. People are being slaughtered all over the ME and Africa. Why Libya?
roger
 
  2  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 06:01 pm
@JPB,
Me too.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 06:03 pm
@roger,
So we are all supposed to accept that the USA got involved in bombing a nation that was not a threat to us because the AL asked us to?
JPB
 
  2  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 06:04 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Dude, we (as part of the international community) were requested to implement a no fly zone by the AL. There was no jumping. There was more deliberation than was probably necessary. What's so hard to see?
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 06:05 pm
@JPB,
So it's okay to bomb another nation that is not a threat to the USA whenever the AL asks us to?
JPB
 
  2  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 06:05 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
All? The likelihood of all of us accepting ANY rationale is remote.
Renaldo Dubois
 
  -1  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 06:06 pm
@JPB,
Do you accept it?
JPB
 
  2  
Sat 26 Mar, 2011 06:07 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Whenever? No. In this circumstance, yes.
 

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