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Are you against Christian Sharia Law?

 
 
Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 08:33 am
The basic idea of Sharia law is that God should be at the center of political and public life. There is no difference between conservative Christians and conservative Muslims on this point.

This is why Christian Sharia law and Muslim Sharia law are 90% the same. No homosexuality. No abortion. No pornography. Strict drug laws. Sex only within the confines of marriage.

This question is for the conservative religious people. Does it make sense to support Christian Sharia law while opposing Muslim Sharia Law?

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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 09:07 am
@maxdancona,
Stone her!
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 09:09 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Stone her!


... and don't let it be prosecuted as a hate crime!
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 09:12 am
@maxdancona,
This question is for the liberal religious people:
Does it make sense to support Christian Sharia law while opposing Muslim Sharia Law?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 09:16 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
This question is for the liberal religious people:
Does it make sense to support Christian Sharia law while opposing Muslim Sharia Law?


I support religious freedom and a secular government. Muslims and Christians have equal rights in this country to express their views or follow their religions. Our government and laws should be secular. It shouldn't be based on Christianity or Muslim beliefs. The key is equality under the law.

The anti-Sharia legislation now being considered by states speak of not following foreign laws or religious laws. It is ironic that just a few years ago conservative Christians were batting to paste the 10 commandments in secular courtrooms. The 10 commandments are not only foreign and religious, they are from a culture that stoned young girls.
djjd62
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 09:55 am
i've always felt that America walked a thin line between secular freedom and a radical christian agenda that's every bit as scary as sharia law
PUNKEY
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 10:33 am
@djjd62,
Ditto
scares the god out of me.
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JPB
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 11:18 am
@djjd62,
me too.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 01:06 pm
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I don't think the so-called radical christian agenda you mention is quite as bad as radical sharia law, it comes close but it's not as scary.


I think that you don't find the radical christian agenda as scary as sharia law, is because it is the more familiar of the two.

IMO any system that wants to impose its tenets into secular life is not only scary, but terrifying.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 02:47 pm
@maxdancona,
I 'm a conservative (conserving the Constitution),
but I 've never advocated union of church n state.
The Constitution is against that.





David
dadpad
 
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Reply Sat 12 Mar, 2011 05:36 pm
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The basic idea of Sharia law is that God should be at the center of political and public life

In my opinion this is a very bad idea. This style of law places ALL power and wealth into the same few hands.
Currently in Western democratic countries division of politics religion and law spreads these powerfull influences across a range of people with differeing goals, ideals and cultural backgrounds.
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Anarkatheist
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:20 am
@maxdancona,
"I support religious freedom and a secular government. Muslims and Christians have equal rights in this country to express their views or follow their religions. Our government and laws should be secular. It shouldn't be based on Christianity or Muslim beliefs. The key is equality under the law."

But you just contradicted yourself there buddy,
How can Christian Beliefs not affect law, which influence and contradict what other may believe in, such as abortions
Its not that they are following their religions, its that they have a say on how other people should live there lives, therefore it is based on we do not have Religious Freedom.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 07:13 am
@Anarkatheist,
You are not making sense. I am not contradicting my self because I didn't say that Christian beliefs shouldn't affect laws. You made up that part (so the contradiction is all yours). I said that "government and laws should be secular" which is quite a different thing. Let me try to explain again.

The key is equality under the law.

You make sure that each person has an equal voice (no matter what their religion). Then you put the idea of "equal protection under the law" in the Constitution. Obviously keeping Christians or Muslims or any ethnic or religious group from having a voice in government goes against this.

My objection to the anti-sharia laws specifically is that they single out one religion. This is a problem because they violate the principle of equality. Laws that are fair are not the issue, even it they happen to be voted on by people who believe in God, be they Christian, Jewish or Muslim.

I am curious what your point is. Are you suggesting that only atheists should be allowed to run for elected office?
Anarkatheist
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 01:20 pm
@maxdancona,
Laws themselves are manifested by the opinion of is right and wrong, and ethics, being relative, is an unjust concept. Whether it is through a religious a perspective, or any other opinion, the "right" to make blanket laws that affect everyone, especially the people who were against it, is unjust.

Obviously living a Democratic State, and being taught in a public school, we have been conditioned to ethnocentricly (Is there a word for Ethnocentric but an adj.? i don't know) believe in this whole democracy thing, and nothing else.

But anyways, why should lets say Group A of 68% of a given population pass laws that affect everyone, where ever they got there opinions from (Religious or not) over Group B that didn't want the law, and if you are talking a population in the millions, you just made a lot of people Sad Campers

To implement your ideas or a groups, onto others through force is not right, and that is not Freedom at all

We are not free
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:43 pm
@Anarkatheist,
Anarkatheist wrote:
We are not free
Of WHAT ?
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:51 pm
@Anarkatheist,
You are criticizing the current Democracy, which I will admit is not perfect. But the problem is that you don't suggest an alternative. We are social beings and there are no examples of human beings having any kind of fulfilling existence outside of a society with the legal system and government that come along with organized society.

I prefer the constitutional democracy we have in the US. It is not perfect, but there are mechanisms to protect the rights of minorities. And there are ways to fight for the rights that aren't protected.

You say we are not free. But this is a meaningless statement unless you offer an alternative where we would be free (without living an unrealistic or unfulfilled life).
Anarkatheist
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 04:41 pm
@maxdancona,
Governemnt itself has not improved at all i must say, the only thing that changes over the years is its justification, just like the past governments today steal, kill, and oppress in the name of what ever is currently acceptable. For example in the past the Mandate of Heaven or Divine Right of Kings, today it would be to fight those who don't pay taxes, Illegal Immigrants for example. In an average American sense "If we didn't have government, who would build the walls to protect us from the 'others'" We need to fear something in order to justify theft, imprisonment, and murder.

People living together (Society) and Government are not one, we have all been taught that with out the monopoly of government we would all purchase weapons and kill one another.
But in fact it is the opposite, it is government that purchase's weapons to expand its tax revenue.
No new form of how to justify these things will make anything better, and in the meantime Unemployment rises and the killings continue.

Government, like religion, relies on the faith of its people, in order to exist.

The alternative, of course, would be to stop letting these clowns with fine hats, speak and act on our behalf.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:04 pm
@Anarkatheist,
Yawn
Anarkatheist
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:12 pm
@maxdancona,
Real mature.
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