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If someone is against abortion...

 
 
dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 08:52 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Do you know what the term is for couples that use the Rhythm Method of birth control?

parents
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 08:53 pm
@sahanley,
Quote:
I don't want to stop anyone from doing anything, but do it on your own dime.


So if I understand you correctly, you have no problem then with abortion being safe and legal. You just don't want to pay to either provide or prevent them.

If it is all about the money for you, I guess I can respect that. It is consistent at least.

msolga
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 08:53 pm
@dyslexia,
Of course!!!!

Laughing
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msolga
 
  1  
Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 08:55 pm
@dyslexia,
But they'd be pretty dancers after years it it though ... Smile
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 09:29 pm
@Butrflynet,
Quote:
Because they think they shouldn't have to pay for the reproductive choices for others, even though they believe everyone should have to pay for the military action choices of a few -- both of which may kill a child.
If you get enough votes, you have your way. Everyone has their say. What is wrong with that ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 09:30 pm
@Butrflynet,
Quote:
what sexuality people must conform to.
What is the advantage in having everyone do what they want ? Is sex the only thing that doesnt have good AND bad possible consequences ?
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sahanley
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 10:40 pm
@Ionus,
If you're taking orders, I'll have a Kobe steak, creamed corn, a baked potatoe with butter (no sour cream) and a nice bottle of Carbernet and I'll need a good dessert with a vintage Port. That meal costs about $300. $300 divided by the 150 million people who pay taxes is far less than a penny each, so is everyone willing to pay for it?
sahanley
 
  1  
Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 10:44 pm
@msolga,
Hasn't ballroom dancing been replaced with Internet porn?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 10:48 pm
@sahanley,
I have a better idea, why dont you just have rice and we will feed several people with the change.
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sahanley
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 10:54 pm
@maxdancona,
No no no, I am totally against the murdering of innocent, unborn children regardless of who wants to pay for it. The "dime" comment refers to other options people may make on their own, but murder is murder and there is no defense to that. Doesn't a good, fair, just, civilized society protect it's most vulnerable? We pay hundreds of millions of dollars each year in this nation to give attorneys to people who can't afford it so they can be represented fairly and "have a voice" doesn't that extend to the unborn? The child didn't do anything wrong at all, why should they pay with their lives for the actions of others?
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 11:05 pm
@maxdancona,
Of all the right-wing causes I've ever heard of, this is the one I wish I'd never heard of. The basic problem is that professional politicians want no part of such issues and shunt them off to judges and bureaucrats with no accountability to anybody or anything and who behave like satraps. These kinds of issues need to be decided by plebiscite votes and settled.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 11:07 pm
@sahanley,
Quote:
Doesn't a good, fair, just, civilized society protect it's most vulnerable?
Only if they vote.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 19 Feb, 2011 11:09 pm
@sahanley,
Quote:
Doesn't a good, fair, just, civilized society protect it's most vulnerable? We pay hundreds of millions of dollars each year in this nation to give attorneys to people who can't afford it so they can be represented fairly and "have a voice" doesn't that extend to the unborn?


Please just answer this simple question.

Should we, as a society, pay money to prevent abortions from happening? I am willing to have my taxpayer dollars go toward preventing abortions, are you?


sahanley
 
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Reply Sun 20 Feb, 2011 08:34 am
@maxdancona,
No. Birth control should be paid for by the people who believe in it and want to use it, and I am firmly against having my money used for the unholy slaughter of innocent babies.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 20 Feb, 2011 08:38 am
@sahanley,
Quote:
No. Birth control should be paid for by the people who believe in it and want to use it, and I am firmly against having my money used for the unholy slaughter of innocent babies.


What you are saying is that you are firmly against having your money used to prevent the unholy slaughter of innocent babies. (This is a thread about preventing, not having abortions).

djjd62
 
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Reply Sun 20 Feb, 2011 08:44 am
@maxdancona,
haven't you learned anything from Monty Python

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sahanley
 
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Reply Sun 20 Feb, 2011 08:51 am
@maxdancona,
Because I am not a Socialist.
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chai2
 
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Reply Sun 20 Feb, 2011 09:09 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Quote:
No. Birth control should be paid for by the people who believe in it and want to use it, and I am firmly against having my money used for the unholy slaughter of innocent babies.


What you are saying is that you are firmly against having your money used to prevent the unholy slaughter of innocent babies. (This is a thread about preventing, not having abortions).




What I get from Sahanley's comments in a nutshell (correct me if I'm wrong Sahanley) is that.

S/he's anti abortion.

Has not got a problem with birth control, i.e. a condom.

Is unwilling to part with even one thin dime to provide condoms for anyone else but him/herself

Any pregnancy's that result from not using birth control, either through lack of money, education, access to free/low cost birth control is not shanleys problem. The pregnant woman must now have a baby, which if they cannot afford it, will fall into the welfare roles, which shanely must contribute to.

I vote my $2 go to a rubber, rather than the years of support to mothers and children, paying for their housing, education.

Paying for someone's birth control is a lot cheaper than paying for their mistake.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 20 Feb, 2011 09:34 am
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:


Paying for someone's birth control is a lot cheaper than paying for their mistake.



Agreed.
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sahanley
 
  1  
Reply Sun 20 Feb, 2011 10:00 am
@chai2,
Did you ever think it might be all these "safety nets" we have in place that encourage people to be irresponsible with their actions? If people knew they would have to own up to their own behavior they wouldn't do it in the first place.
 

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