What a horrible woman.

@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

This woman is a real jerk. There was no reason for her to send private email to a gossip website.
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Would you ruin someone's career by sending private emails to the press?

The "press" being this other black Democrat female who claims she talked the first one into sending her everything. Both women are jerks. The congressman is too for trusting them.

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@djjd62,

djjd62 wrote:

i'm not saying i haven't done it, though mostly i don't care what folks think of what i say or do, but it's a good lesson

All this congressman did was sent a pic of himself. The previous guy to resign grabbed another guy under a table at a wedding. I didn't hear about that one at the time, did you?

Quote:

This is the second time in less than a year that a member of New York’s Congressional delegation has resigned amid personal scandal.

In March, Representative Eric J. Massa, a freshman Democrat from New York, stepped down after the House ethics committee began an investigation into accusations that he had harassed a male aide.

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He is an idiot for cheating on his wife. She is a ho for playing the game. She is merely an awful human being for selling her story.

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Caveat Emptor

What goes on the internet, stays on the internet.

.....for all to see.

A man in high office trys to get involved with a complete stranger on the internet and then when the stranger bites him (so to speak), the sqeamish amongst us get all bent out of shape.

Somehow, this seems to be more of a left / right issue that anything else based on what I am reading.

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@electronicmail,

what does anything you've said have to do with my statement

i expect nothing less than scumbag behaviour from politicians and those who associate with them, that being said, i think they should ditch the paper trail, but if they don't, oh well

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I think it's stupid to make it a left/ right issue. If there is a direct example of hypocrisy -- Larry Craig comes to mind as someone who was actively pursuing anti-gay legislation while also actively pursuing gay men -- then I kind of get it.

But this kind of behavior is not limited to one party, so it just becomes this boring tit-for-tat. (A Republican misbehaves and Dems say "ZOMG Republican sleazebag LOL," then a Democrat misbehaves and Repubs say "ZOMG Democrat sleazebag LOL.")

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

A man in high office trys to get involved with a complete stranger on the internet and then when the stranger bites him (so to speak), the sqeamish amongst us get all bent out of shape.

I don't know that anyone is getting sqeamish and bent out of shape about the Congressman so much as saying that the woman who outed him doesn't deserve the anonymity she's been granted. She wants to drag this guy's personal life through the muck but keep her hands clean. That he is a "man in high office" is really beside the point other than that is the reason this is "news" at all. An everyday Joe lying about his age and trying to cheat on his wife using the Internet is hardly news.

Intrepid wrote:

Somehow, this seems to be more of a left / right issue that anything else based on what I am reading.

But on this board, all the lefties and center-lefties seem to be supporting the Republican Congressman. Tabloids are equal opportunity mud slingers. Just ask John Edwards or Bill Clinton.

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The left / right analysis was based on what I have read on the thread.... not my own opinion.

I was referring mainly to the OP when I mentioned bent out of shape.

The point about a regular Joe not being news is true. This was not a regular Joe and he should be held to higher standards. Had he done so, this would not be news.

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@Intrepid,

I didn't say this guy was a regular Joe, only that a regular Joe doing these types of activites isn't even worth a yawn. As to higher standards for elected officials, I agree in part but not in this case. We elect this guy to do a job. Often when elected officials get caught in this kind of situation they are abusing their positions; maybe using public funds to pay for liasons, using their "power" to provide encouragement to their partners, getting sex for access, etc. It is reasonable to say that we give this guy great power and he must not abuse it. This guy didn't do that. He's trying to cheat on his wife on his own time, using his own resources. To me that is deplorable, but it's his business as long as he continues to function at a reasonable level in his job.

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

Just one of the pitfalls of a government official
doing stupid and inappropriate things.

Yes; TRUSTING someone not to do what she did.

Trusting is a stupid thing to do.
Trusting is a bad business & shoud be kept to a minimum.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Trusting is not stupid. If we didn't trust we'd never make it through a single day. Well, I couldn't anyway.

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@engineer,

engineer wrote:

I didn't say this guy was a regular Joe, only that a regular Joe doing these types of activites isn't even worth a yawn. As to higher standards for elected officials, I agree in part but not in this case. We elect this guy to do a job. Often when elected officials get caught in this kind of situation they are abusing their positions; maybe using public funds to pay for liasons, using their "power" to provide encouragement to their partners, getting sex for access, etc. It is reasonable to say that we give this guy great power and he must not abuse it. This guy didn't do that. He's trying to cheat on his wife on his own time, using his own resources. To me that is deplorable, but it's his business as long as he continues to function at a reasonable level in his job.

Nowhere did I say that you said he was a regular Joe. You must have misread my post.

I disagree that he should not be held to a higher standard. How do you know that he was not doing this while on the job? How do you know that he doesn't enjoy this type of activity in the luxury and privacy of his office? How do you know it was his own resources and not a government computer?

If he is deceitful in his private life, why should we expect him to be any different in his professional life?

You seem to be making too many assumptions in your defence of this guy.

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@Arella Mae,

Arella Mae wrote:

Trusting is not stupid. If we didn't trust we'd never make it through a single day. Well, I couldn't anyway.

No one could, even if they're not willing to admit it. We trust cross traffic to stop when we have a green light, we trust drivers to yield to us when we are in a crosswalk with the light. We trust a waiter or waitress to give us what we ordered. We trust the cashier at the bank. This doesn't mean we don't look both ways before crossing, this doesn't mean we won't send our order back, and it doesn't we don't count our change. What it does mean is that anyone who says trust is stupid is being stupid him- or herself.

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@Intrepid,

I'm just reading the article as to the extent of his transgressions. The problem with applying a super high moral standard is that you end up having to do it to everyone. I'd worry more about school teachers than congressmen. Do we fire every school teacher who has an affair? How can we trust them with our children if they can't honor their oaths to their spouses? How about policemen caught speeding in their POV's? Speeding is actually against the law (opposed to adultry which is not) and these are the very people we trust to enforce the law. To me, there is a bright line between malfeasence on the job and questionable moral but legal conduct off the job. I don't really care if this guy watches porn, smokes cigarettes or cheats on his wife. That's not what I pay him for. As for the woman in this case, I understand she doesn't want it out that she roams around the Internet collecting responses from guys and then going out with her buds and laughing at them, but as she's chosen to go public (very public with that interview I linked to), she should get out there with her name as well.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Would you ruin someone's career by sending private emails to the press?

if it was an elected official, there's a reasonable chance my answer would be yes, I would pass on the information

what happens to their career is not of interest to me

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@ehBeth,

I've been thinking about that too. I'm not sure what I would do.

I don't think this woman acted in a maximally ethical manner, but I don't think it's that horrible, either.

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

if it was an elected official, there's a reasonable chance my answer would be yes, I would pass on the information

what happens to their career is not of interest to me

Why would you smoke an elected official and not someone else? What about a captain in the police force or a fire official or a local lawyer or an electrician or a factory worker? At what point does someone's job mean they deserve public flogging and loss of livelihood?

I find it interesting that in the article she talks about receiving pictures from several men and they all lie to some extent, but this is the only guy she outed.

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@engineer,

Why would she out Joe Blow?

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@Intrepid,

For the same reason she would out a congressman, cheating on wife, lying, etc. Why is his status as a congressman important? Could it be that part of the appeal is getting her fifteen minutes in the spotlight? I remember all those women coming out of the woodwork when Tiger was getting his and just thinking that I was looking at a bunch of attention seekers. At least they published their names.

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@engineer,

Because nobody cares about Joe Blow. He is just a faceless entity among many. Now, a congressman.... now you have something to talk about. Hence, this thread.

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What a horrible woman.

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