THE US, THE UN AND IRAQ VI

So far all responses have shied away from addressing any of the points I have that CLEARLY shows that there is indeed a link between Iraq and al Qaeda.

Why is that you guys can't defend the statements that your side keeps making?

McGentrix wrote:

So far all responses have shied away from addressing any of the points I have that CLEARLY shows that there is indeed a link between Iraq and al Qaeda.

Why is that you guys can't defend the statements that your side keeps making?

I like you...not in the sense that my heart goes pitter-pat whenever I see a post from you...but in that I expect we'd get on just fine in any number of circustances.

But you are in trouble on this one. The commission was bi-partisan and it had access to much more information than we no matter how much reading we do.

Steadfast refusal to come to grips with a portrayal of events and facts which demonstrate that the administration was either really wrong, or deceitful, or both, goes beyond the pale when you propose that the commission gets it wrong and you get it right, or when Ican suggests that the commission must necessarily not be bi-partisan at all because it concluded at odds with the administration.

For any of us to rehash now the claims you advance again seems a bit like having to argue once more that phlogistan or the creation of the world in six days are not viable theses.

I invite you to vote for whomever you wish, but please drop this one.

"There is no convincing evidence that any government financially supported al Qaeda before 9/11 -- other than limited support provided by the Taliban after bin Laden first arrived in Afghanistan (news - web sites),"

Thank goodness the choice is between dumb and a return to intelligence, the choice is easy Then again, you guys don't like choice - only being told what to do........

The Constitution of the United States of America
Effective as of March 4, 1789
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Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.

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"There is no convincing evidence that any government financially supported al Qaeda before 9/11 -- other than limited support provided by the Taliban after bin Laden first arrived in Afghanistan (news - web sites),"

Basically, you are saying that you know better than the investigators do, McG, which I plain don't believe to be true.

Cycloptichorn

Basically, you are saying that you know better than the investigators do

I do not trust the competence of a commission that refuses to investigate the consequences of Jamie Gorelick's directive (Jamie Gorelick is a member of the commission, and she served in the Clinton Administration pre-9/11/2001). Her directive explicitly prohibited intelligence sharing among the FBI, CIA, and NSA.

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"There is no convincing evidence that any government financially supported al Qaeda before 9/11 -- other than limited support provided by the Taliban after bin Laden first arrived in Afghanistan (news - web sites),"

Basically, you are saying that you know better than the investigators do, McG, which I plain don't believe to be true.

Cycloptichorn

Why are you guys having such a hard time grasping the idea that even though Saddam had numerous contacts with al Qaeda, he had no part in the events of 9/11?

They can be mutually exclusive.

In a report released today, the commission found that Osama bin Laden considered cooperating with Saddam even though he opposed the Iraqi leader's secular regime. A senior Iraqi intelligence official reportedly met with Bin Laden in 1994 in Sudan, the panel found, and Bin Laden "is said to have requested space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but Iraq apparently never responded".