cicerone imposter wrote:Craven, I'm not asking timber to prove the veracity of that "study," but to prove that GWBush's IQ is higher than most of the presidents of the past 50 years (or whatever period he wishes to choose) by any means.
c.i. you can't prove this. You do realize remote IQ testing doesn't work? Same with dead people, you can't test dead people's IQ's.
Your request is an impossible one. But I'll come as close as I can.
Quote:Even though that "study" might be false/fake, there is still some "truth" to the claim that GWBush's IQ is not all too high compared to all the presidents of the past.
Well c.i., upon what do you base this claim? You ask for proof of a nature that is impossible to bring, but don't make any effort to tackle proof yourself.
Anywho, like I said, I'll do the best I can with what information is available to me to satisfy your unfair request:
I only know of the following presidents alleged IQs (through actual testing, not guesses).
Nixon: 143
JFK: 119
Gore: 133 and 134
Now we do have a problem in that we do not know of any IQ test results for Bush.
So let's work with what we do know: SAT score. Not perfect but there is significant correlation between SAT and IQ.
Bush scored 1206. Or in the top 16%. The 84th percentile in IQ would be 115
Gore scored 1355 on the SAT. If we use this as a ratio (134:1355) Bush would get 119 (like JFK).
We can also compare his scholastic achievements to averages for a bit more insight (if not proof because it's impossible dangit):
Average high school graduate: 105
Average college graduate: 115
Advanced professional degrees: 125
Bush has an MBA from Harvard Business School.
A better test would be to find a better ratio of IQ to SAT using a much larger data sample but I suspect you'll find that Bush is of average intelligence, about the same as JFK.
It's probably not too high, but probably compares well with presidents of the past:
Truman, Regan and Roosevelt were no braniacs. Oliver Wendell Holmes called Roosevelt "a second-rate intellect but a first-class temperament." JFK graduated 65th in his high-school class of 110.