Hawaii governor can't find Bork's birth certificate

I guess it turns out that the document does not exist, parados,

Strange, watching Obama's speech now and he hasn't yet mentioned one thing about his birth certificate!!! I get the feeling he will not mention it.

I wonder what will happen if it turns out that obama was never an American ?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I wonder what will happen if it turns out that obama was never an American ?

It's more likely to turn out that you have never owned a gun, David

I wonder what will happen if it turns out that obama was never an American ?

It's more likely to turn out that you have never owned a gun, David

Think about probability for a minute David..
Surely you must know what that is as a member of Mensa.

What is the probability that you have never owned a gun in your lifetime?

For a so called member of Mensa, you sure need
a lot of hand holding to understand simple statements.

So.. what is the probability that Obama was born outside the US if it is more likely that you never owned a gun?

I wonder what will happen if it turns out that obama was never an American ?

I wonder what will happen if it turns out that obama was never an American ?

I believe Parados is making a bit of a joke at your expense, deservedly, David.

According to you, the probability of your never owning a gun is zero.

The probability of Obama not being an American is also zero. (You cannot have a probability less than zero). But Parados is making the point that your musing is silly. It is.

Obama's mother was American.
Therefore he is American, by definition ?? and law.[WHICH law is that??] There is no question.

If the child of an American is born outside of America,
as a general rule, he is not an American.

If one parent is a US citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if
the US citizen parent has been "physically present"[6] in the US before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and
at least two of those five years were after the US citizen parent's fourteenth birthday

David said:

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If the child of an American is born outside of America,
as a general rule, he is not an American.

Basically wrong. Under almost all actual situations, the kid is a citizen/
8 U.S.C. sec. 1401 (it actually has one of those strange symbols
like 2 s's joined instead of "sec."
but that's not on a standard keyboard) [That IS the section sign.]

Quote:

If one parent is a US citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if
the US citizen parent has been "physically present"[6] in the US before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and
at least two of those five years were after the US citizen parent's fourteenth birthday

There are a number of other kinds of cases in which a child is deemed a citizen by birth or by descent, too--that quote is only one of about ten possible combinations.

Birthright Citizenship in the United States", wikipedia.

For most Americans, it is not hard to come up
with a birth certificate; its not usually a point of controversy.

If the child of an American is born outside of America,
as a general rule, he is not an American.

Congress first recognized the citizenship of children born to U.S. parents overseas on March 26, 1790, stating that "the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens:

As a practical matter,
it woud be whatever 5 Justices of the USSC felt like deciding,
how wide a liberal variation from the text
of the Constitution thay were willing to tolerate.