The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

Is this serious?

We don't have to make up talking points in advance for any of the candidates your side has put forth. That implies a level of effort which simply isn't necessary.

The truth is that - for your top three candidates (Romney, Perry, and Bachmann) so many problems exist, that are damaging to their electoral chances, that it's just a matter of picking the lowest-hanging fruit. And you know it... this is hardly the A-list of Republicans running for Prez this year.

Now, if you had someone like Marco Rubio on top of a ticket, I'd be a lot more worried than I am currently, which is not at all worried.

Cycloptichorn

I don't think either one of them are seriously reconsidering it beyond acknowledging that they're being asked to reconsider it by some folks within the Republican party pushing them to jump in. From what I hear Christie is a firmer "no" than Ryan but neither of them are likely to enter the race a this point.

I don't think Christie is at all serious, JPB. Ryan is being touted by some prominent Repubs, but I think he may be positioning himself as a VP choice. I think it is too late for him to pull in cash and staff for a run for the top job.

That may be, but why wait until they declare to flood the air waves with negative propoganda? If a Democrat was worried about Ryan, Christie or Rubio throwing their hats in the ring, wouldn't it make sense to launch a pre-emptive strike that might keep them out?

The answer lies with the oily nature of Democrat politics, and the undue influence of the media.

Timing is a very important factor in these campaigns and Democrats know that if they launch a pre-emptive strike now, unless it is nuclear, it will be over-shadowed by the announcement that one or more of these men are running. So they keep their powder dry and wait.

To suggest that the Democrat Machine hasn't already compiled a list of "negatives" about each and every possible opponent is to admit to either a slavish faith in the party or a naievity that should disqualify the lamb in question from participation in any political discussions.

Actually, I hope Cyclo is right because it would signify an incredible level of incompetence on the part of the Democrat Party. I know it is incompetent in term of policy development, but I have always, reluctantly, acknowledged the effectiveness of its political lies.

My problem is not so much with the Democrat Machine that engages in a near life and death struggle with its opponents, but with the Liberal fools who so readily consume their manipulative pablum. I suppose these fools consider themselves annointed warriors in the righteous war, but in reality they are pathetic dupes.

I somewhat inconspicuously offered a, by all evidence, non-partisan blog that actually did the math concerning Texas job creation and if anyone actually read it, they ignored it since it didn't comport with what they wished to spew.

They were too busy lining up to post the anti-Perry talking points they had been fed than to consider and respond to an alternative argument. Making it clear, that they need their handlers to review the bloggers claims and tell them what to say in response.

Pathetic dupes = Liberals who self-associate with Democrats.

Having read my final paragraph I realize that I have to make this post a bit longer to hook the short attention span members of A2K. I also realized I needed a a hook like the preceding comment. I've also edited my original comments to be more provocative. So we will see.

Somehow I feel compelled to point out that the Republican party is guilty of the same tricks, even though I know this admission will have no real effect. Wait and see...there will be a post accusing Republicans of the same political manipulation.

At what point will the puppets of the Democrat Party acknowledge that they are attached to strings?

Finn screaming in desperation.

I guess I was mistaken. Finn ain't bright enough to do better.

Finn, talk to OmSig about the use of big fonts and color to spice up your posts.

I'm more inclined to think that it's the oily nature of parties, but then I hold them both in equal disregard. I read your link re jobs and I read the comments below it. My beef with Perry has nothing to do with whether he did or didn't have a hand in bringing jobs into Texas. I think the increase in government jobs as a percentage of new jobs needs to be looked at carefully but I haven't taken the trouble to do that because, as I said earlier, even though I'm a fiscal conservative his theocracy and positions on social issues would push me to vote for the biggest socialist the dems wanted to bring forth. In other words, to this swing voter his jobs numbers are irrelevant.

Next time your kitchen gets dirty, do you have a written and well-developed plan on how to clean it?

No, of course not; because it simply isn't necessary. The task is clear enough without a well-developed plan. The Dems find themselves in the exact same situation; the attacks against all three of your leading candidates will simply write themselves. I don't need an email from Moveon.org telling me that Romney is a hypocrite fat-cat, Perry is a crazy Texan Bush wanna-be, and Bachmann is an even crazier idiot who couldn't articulate a cohesive plan for our nation if she tried.

All three of these people make gaffes and mistakes on a weekly basis that back this up. I'm not concerned about Obama's ability to beat any of them, at all.



Did H2O man get access to your account somehow? I'm used to you being wrong about things, but not vapid and boring.

Cycloptichorn

i'm all for negative campaigning form all parties all the time, even outside of elections

furthermore, there should be no recriminations for out right lies stated in said ads

I hope you're right. As you know, I'm no big fan of Obama's. But I fear the alternatives, and I'm concerned that a double-dip recession can sweep even a bad Republican candidate into the White House.

That's be grand. Then we could see what a quadruple dip recession looks like.

Thomas: The world's stock markets today scared the hell out of me. I see nothing positive and the notion of a "world wide recession" is mentioned in articles I read in the media in various countries.
Perhaps there will be a respite tomorrow. But why, going into a weekend, would there be?

I see a fear of a global Lehman's - some eurobank that will tip the balance towards a global collapse. Mutual funds are required to sell when the client says sell - even if they've appropriately positioned themselves for a fall - and most of us are invested in mutual funds.

The idea that a Rick Perry or a Michele Bachman or a Mitt Romney could skate through this turmoil is a joke. Ryan and Christie are smart to stay out.

Dude, do you ever look beyond yourself?

My apologies. I thought all this time that you might be human under that personae. I won't make the mistake again.

you made him start masturbating all over the thread again.

what the hell were you thinking...?