The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

The Gop will agree to an increase in taxes, IF the dems and Obama agree to a cut in spending.

The point is that both sides have to be willing to give, and neither side is.

You missed the part where I said it was my proposal, not an official stance by either party.

The GOP still will not negotiate any increase in taxes; they live in la-la land, and that's not going to change.

Is it that they won't negotiate, or that they want the Dems to negotiate in good faith?

As long as I'm being obnoxious, what is it with female, usually Republican, aspirants and the wide open mouths caught in many photos?

Ok, that's 2.

I'll try to come up with a third...

I don't think this is accurate. The Dems have agreed to budget cuts, to the tune of trillions of dollars; the Republicans are reportedly agreeing to NO tax increases whatsoever.

I can link to some articles on this if you like...

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I don't think this is accurate. The Dems have agreed to budget cuts, to the tune of trillions of dollars; the Republicans are reportedly agreeing to NO tax increases whatsoever.

I can link to some articles on this if you like...

Cycloptichorn

Please do. I know of no authoritative information on the specific budget cuts to which the Democrat negotiators have agreed.

I believe the Republicans have been fairly consistent about no tax increases. They have been so from the start. Any expectation that they will do so is likely self-generated.

It is worth noting that President Obama presented a budget to Congress (after the fiscal year was one quarter old) with virtually no budget cuts at all. He then went on just a few weeks later in the SOU speech to argue for substantial cuts. Following that he trashed a then new Republican budget proposal containing substantial cuts as harmful to the nation. Could it be that he is playing politics with a national crisis?

For instance, there is enough money coming in the doors to pay our debt obligations, our defense budget, social security and medicare.

If the debt ceiling is not raised, the United States will not automatically default on all of its loans.

There is enough money coming into the treasury to satisfy the terms of our debt.

No, the Administration will send out letters to US servicemen and women, SS recipients and those depending upon medicare that explain how unfortunately they can't pay them because those nasty Republicans refused to raise the debt ceiling.

******* hostage takers; once again, like I told George, you should be ashamed of the hypocrisy of your leadership, who voted for debt limit increases time and time again under Bush, to fund his wars and his medicare expansion. There's no crisis now which forces massive cuts to spending - the whole thing is a political construction, designed to hurt Obama and the Dems as much as possible.

Cycloptichorn

At the beginning of the Bush presidency, the United States debt limit was $5.95 trillion. Despite promises that he would pay off the debt in 10 years, Bush increased the debt to $9.815 trillion by the end of his term, with plenty of help from the four Republicans currently holding Congressional leadership positions: Speaker John Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl. ThinkProgress compiled a breakdown of the five debt limit increases that took place during the Bush presidency and how the four Republican leaders voted:

June 2002: Congress approves a $450 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $6.4 trillion. McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor vote “yea”, Kyl votes “nay.”

May 2003: Congress approves a $900 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $7.384 trillion. All four approve.

November 2004: Congress approves an $800 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.1 trillion. All four approve.

March 2006: Congress approves a $781 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.965 trillion. All four approve.

September 2007: Congress approves an $850 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $9.815 trillion. All four approve.

Database searches revealed no demands from the four legislators that debt increases come accompanied by drastic spending cuts, as there are now. In fact, the May 2003 debt limit increase passed the Senate the same day as the $350 billion Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. (boy that makes a lot of sense)

When Bush was in office, the current Republican leaders viewed increasing the debt limit as vital to keeping America’s economy running. But with Obama in the White House, it’s nothing more than a political pawn.

Romney and Bachmann are tied among primary voters who say they are Tea Party members, with 26% support each. Romney holds a 36% to 16% lead over the congresswoman among non-members. Most primary voters regard all the candidates with the exception of Huntsman as conservative, but Bachmann is seen as the most conservative.

I don't know that i'd even list his father John Adams among the "founding fathers." That would hinge on how one defines founding fathers. While his views were influential, Adams was not a participant in the constitutional convention.

******* hostage takers; once again, like I told George, you should be ashamed of the hypocrisy of your leadership, who voted for debt limit increases time and time again under Bush, to fund his wars and his medicare expansion. There's no crisis now which forces massive cuts to spending - the whole thing is a political construction, designed to hurt Obama and the Dems as much as possible.

Cycloptichorn

Was he also a manipulative "hostage taker" ?