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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 10:35 am
@Setanta,
Isn't it about percentages of promises kept, and how important the issues are?

Seems Obama has kept most of his campaign promises, and he's still running respectable percentages on performance.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 10:48 am
@cicerone imposter,
The tea baggers seem to think that they can elect "ideologically pure" candidates and push their agenda. Electing a president who is a darling of the tea baggers is likely to disillusion them. They're not likely to think in terms of how many promises are kept, but whether or not they're kept. Their important issues include a lot of social issues--and they're not likely to be able to shove those down the collective national throat no matter whom they elect. Gay people aren't going away and neither is abortion. Unrealistic attitudes towards immigrants (which i personally suspect are actually racially motivated) aren't going to fly, either. The tea baggers want to dismantle social welfare, but they don't want to give up medicare or social security. They live in La-la land, and i just think nothing could wake them up faster than getting in a clinch with practical politics.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:05 am
@Setanta,
I don't think it will matter to them Set. The key is to blame the other side, even when you are in control. If they can't get what they want, it' because they only have 75% of the government. Or it's because the bureaucrats stopped them or some liberal judge or whoever else they can blame. They are always more than happy to blame someone else because to do otherwise would require them to accept that they might be wrong and that would be impossible.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:06 am
@parados,
parados wrote:

I don't think it will matter to them Set. The key is to blame the other side, even when you are in control. If they can't get what they want, it' because they only have 75% of the government. Or it's because the bureaucrats stopped them or some liberal judge or whoever else they can blame. They are always more than happy to blame someone else because to do otherwise would require them to accept that they might be wrong and that would be impossible.


Very true; 'Conservatism' can never fail, only people can fail Conservatism. At least in their minds.

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:06 am
@Setanta,
The GOP still will not negotiate any increase in taxes; they live in la-la land, and that's not going to change. They expect the US to maintain military superiority without paying into it, and look more at cutting social security and Medicare. One of these days, American conservatives are going to wise up that the GOP is out to destroy their lives too!

They keep trying, and now use religion to get the voters support. It works - for now.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:07 am
@parados,
Perhaps . . . but they still need to learn practical politics, and as long as they can blame the lack of "ideologically pure" office-holders, they'll never be forced to face up to practical politics.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:10 am
@Setanta,
It's the no "ideologically pure" office-holder would do that fallacy.

They can elect ideologically pure office-holder after ideologically pure office-holder. Once they don't perform, then they were not really ideologically pure.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:35 am
Breaking news: Billionaire George Soros accused of dishing millions in bid to give left-wing judges the upper hand in more states.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:40 am
@H2O MAN,
Breaking news...

Squirt falls for more RW propaganda..



Oh.. that's just the same ole news.. Sorry..

Oh.. there, he just did it again..

Oh.. and again..
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 11:46 am
@parados,
parados, You'd save a lot of time by ignoring waterboy. He only repeats **** that only stinks up the boards. I put him on Ignore, and I now enjoy a2k much more! LOL
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 12:56 pm
Is impostergirl still blaming GW Bush for all of Obama's mistakes and problems?

Maybe impostergirl will grow up and face reality.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 03:12 pm
@H2O MAN,

guess who needs to grow up?

i'll give you a few hints...
it's not ci
it's not me
it's definitely not obama

need another hint?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 03:20 pm
@Region Philbis,
I don't want to have three guesses, but .... is it somehow 'wet'?
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 03:30 pm
@Region Philbis,
I'll work on growing up, Region.
Today, a group of Tea Party activists marched over to the offices of the National Republican Senatorial Committee. They are demanding that the latter not financially or otherwise support the campaigns of incumbent Republican senators where there is a primary challenge (i.e. from a Tea Party candidate).
Specifically, the Tea Party movement has focused on veterans Orrin Hatch (Utah), Richard Lugar (Indiana) and Olympia Snowe (Maine).
I was, and probably still am, convinced that the GOP will not break up, but I am less confident about that then I was.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 03:33 pm
@Region Philbis,
Let me know when waterboy begins to make some sense, and contributes anything worth reading. Until then, I'll keep him on Ignore.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 04:19 pm
Meanwhile, back in Waterloo, Iowa, Bachmann noted - for some unknown reason - that actor John Wayne was from her hometown. That turned out to be wrong. The western movie star apparently was from some town 150 miles away.
Get ready for this.
John Wayne Gacey was from Waterloo. He was a serial killer who murdered some 33 young men and boys a couple decades ago.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 04:20 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

Meanwhile, back in Waterloo, Iowa, Bachmann noted - for some unknown reason - that actor John Wayne was from her hometown. That turned out to be wrong. The western movie star apparently was from some town 150 miles away.
Get ready for this.
John Wayne Gacey was from Waterloo. He was a serial killer who murdered some 33 young men and boys a couple decades ago.


This is the sort of stuff which REGULARLY happens with her; and the top reason why us lefties don't fear her for a second. She's much better at giving set-piece speeches than she used to be, but still has a tendency to say crazy things when she extemporizes.

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 04:35 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

Meanwhile, back in Waterloo, Iowa, Bachmann noted - for some unknown reason - that actor John Wayne was from her hometown. That turned out to be wrong. The western movie star apparently was from some town 150 miles away.
Get ready for this.
John Wayne Gacey was from Waterloo. He was a serial killer who murdered some 33 young men and boys a couple decades ago.


It's not like she visited 57 states and is on her way to the 58th state.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2011 04:37 pm
@realjohnboy,
hey, everybody loves a clown
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0l04jEqJ91qzgcpyo1_500.jpg
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