The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

what's a gay union, the screen actors guild or actors equity?

Nope, she's correct.

that's an entertaining review.

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I was surprised Cain didn't get more coverage. He wasn't even noted (other than as a participant) in the MSN review this a.m

I could certainly be biased toward Cain's importance by H20man's coverage of Cain, but I thought they'd say something about him.

Did Bachmann really vaporize his hopes?

One thing was crystal clear, any of the 7 seen last night would be a better president than Obama.

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ebeth, I haven't seen too much about Cain one way or another to impress. He also seems to have far right ideals such as not wanting to have Muslims in his administration and would require them to take a loyalty oath. Also he thinks illegal or temporary immigrants who are born in the US should not have automatic citizenship. He does not seem to be very informed on world affairs, was rather clueless on what the right of return is in regards to the ME conflict.

His attitude toward abortion and calling for a return to the gold standard was enough to convince me he's a few bricks short of a load.

And, besides, he's cute.

Not to diminish the observations.

Cain claimed to be a businessman, but he has no clue about the supply of gold, and the total value of what just the US holds vs other countries.

Here's some of the gold holders: US 8965 tonnes, Germany 3749 tonnes, IMF 3137 tonnes, Italy 2702 tonnes, China 1161 tonnes, France 2684 tonnes.

That's equivalent to about 22,400 tonnes, or put another way, the total value at current gold prices equals over $1 trillion dollars.

There isn't that much US currency in circulation around the world. The value of the gold in US is valued at over $444.6 billion.

Total US currency in circulation is $853 billion.

As a matter of supply and demand on gold, there's no way to cash out all the gold now available.

Maybe I don't have the right guy?



On second thought; he is kind of cute in a grandfatherly way.

which 'he'?

In addition, Canada, Russia and South Africa are the world's largest gold producers. So, without the least reference to productive capacity and productive efficiency, the currency of those countries would become the most valuable foreign exchange.

maybe ossobuco meant Bachmann?

Osso is gay?

Who knew?

News to me, and pretty late at that..
Well, I do have that odd username.

I meant Huntsman, a guy that I think may progress in this scenario.

Cain's looks, he looks good, not whom I was was talking about. Haven't heard him as I don't follow all the videos that show up. Voices matter somewhat, words more, sometimes, re whoever votes what.

I viscerally hate Michele Bachmann (sp) but I can't stand Hillary either, though somewhat less than Bachmann. Hillary seems a victim to me of biased information learned fast. Bachmann seems out to lunch on infected oysters.

The format was terrible, and the CNN "moderator" was a jerk.

"This or That?"

Give me a break.

I don't have a problem with debate moderators keeping candidates from hogging the spotlight with canned speeches, but King started to interrupt their answers after about 15 seconds. It was obnoxious as hell.

Why's more, he kept trotting out the ostensible explanation that he was trying to make sure there was time for the "voters'" question,when the ratio of reporter posed question to those from member of the audience was about 12:1.

With each question posed by an audience member, King added at least 3 or 4 of his own and often changing the subject entirely. As a result, the candidates were repeatedly telling him "I'd like to return to the original question."

Interestingly enough, the only candidate he didn't cut off was Michelle Bachman. Chauvinism?

In my opinion, all of the candidates did very well, and all had high points.

Caine did, however, come across rather badly in respect to his comments about whether or not he would have Muslims in his administration.

Some pundits have suggested that Pawlenty wimped out when he had the chance to go at Romney on Romney-Care, but I whole-heartedly disagree.

The people these candidate are talking to are not pundits and journalists (and certainly not the liberal variety). They are talking to people who will or may vote Republican in 2012.

As much as liberals and pundits may have been entertained by a dog fight among the candidates, I know I didn't want to see them tearing each other apart and I strongly suspect I am far from being alone.

This leads me to a question that I'm having trouble answering:

I know the pundits and journalists are far more interested in sensational issues that they can use as fodder for their columns and commentaries. I know that John King really really wanted to see a dog fight among the candidates, and I think this has more to do with his notion of what makes good TV than his personal politics ( although I'm not discounting the latter).

The question that bothers me is whether or not the American people want this drama as well and how many of them are prepared to cast their votes based on such superficiality.

I tend to think that those voters who place some value on the sensational are not watching the debates, but simply waiting for a headline or sound-bite to inform them.

There are a number of pundits who have expressed the belief that Michelle Bachmann either won the debate or did very, very well. Their reasoning seems to be because she effectively played the media game: announcing her candidacy, launching soundbites etc.

I think she did OK, but her silly ploy of using the debate to announce her candidacy apparently impressed media types far more than me.

One last comment: If Newt was counting on dominating debates to makeup for his refusal to press the flesh,he failed miserably. The format didn't allow for any candidate to dominate, and I seriously doubt any of the future ones will either.

Do you mean your hatred of Bachmann is "partisan" or that hatred of her is "bipartisan?"

I hope the former because the latter reflects an even more intense level of partisanship.

That also explains why gold values do not make much sense. Africa doesn't produce much of anything for the world's competitive marketplace; gold only fuels inflation. Without the products and services to back up the gold, where's the value in gold? It can be eaten, but it doesn't have much nutritious value.

She is just one of the governmental endeavorers with light shined on them as women that drive me nuts for some reason. I could list the men, but I'm not in the mood and I'd probably need some help to graph that, again, on both or more than both sides.

I meant that I don't only dislike one woman on one side of the aisle.
I threw that out as bipartisan. It's probably quintipartisan. Or for more effect, sextipartisan (where's George?)

I think Michele Bachmann (I'm going to have to look that up) is a user, layers of using, but I'll admit that can be a way to keep going in the hothouse of politics, for all.