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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 05:34 am
I bet more Americans have heard of Cain than had heard of
Obama at the same time in his run up to the last election.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 07:24 am



Tea Party Hands Herman Cain Another Presidential Straw Poll Victory
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 07:25 am


Cain a smash at Georgia GOP convention
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 08:25 am
Gov. Mitch Daniels, Architect of the Debt Crisis


Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels is the new Republican darling of the Washington establishment, which hails him as a “fiscal conservative” who would be “serious” about addressing the nation’s staggering debt problem. But his many admirers forget to mention what Daniels did in creating the debt crisis as George W. Bush’s budget director.

Repubs should do a little research on Daniels before going to the polls.


H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 08:36 am
@Advocate,
Mitch Daniels is more of a liberal than a conservative - he is not what the country needs.

Also, Mitt & Newt are looking less like presidential candidates.
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 11:21 am
Trump is out.

Quote:
After considerable deliberation and reflection, I have decided not to pursue the office of the Presidency. This decision does not come easily or without regret; especially when my potential candidacy continues to be validated by ranking at the top of the Republican contenders in polls across the country. I maintain the strong conviction that if I were to run, I would be able to win the primary and ultimately, the general election. I have spent the past several months unofficially campaigning and recognize that running for public office cannot be done half heartedly. Ultimately, however, business is my greatest passion and I am not ready to leave the private sector. Source


Good move!
sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 11:29 am
@JPB,
Yes, Donald, you would have won. Keep telling yourself that. (I wonder if he actually believes it though?)

Meanwhile, Newt is making big waves already, between denouncing Ryan's Medicare plan ("Right-wing social engineering") and calling Obama the "food stamp president."
JPB
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 11:40 am
@sozobe,
I watched Newt's interview on Meet the Press yesterday. He's carrying an awful lot of baggage. He's a changed man! Mostly, what I heard is that he's learned to keep his mouth shut and tell people what they want to hear.

I think Bachman is going to throw her name in soon. That would be fun from an entertainment standpoint.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 11:44 am
@JPB,
Trump was never a consideration - he was only interested in pulling of a stunt or two.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 12:00 pm
@JPB,
Lawrence O’Donnell, on his MSNBC show, "The Last Word", has been saying for weeks that Trump's alleged candidacy was all a publicity stunt to hype ratings on his "Apprentice" show because that program was up for renewal with NBC, and it provides a sizable chunk of income for Trump. Trump could not continue to appear on the program if he were a declared candidate. O'Donnell had predicted that as soon as "The Apprentice" was renewed for another season, that Trump would drop out of the race--and that's exactly what happened. NBC announced yesterday that "The Apprentice" was renewed, and today Trump dropped out. Trump likes keeping his wallet well padded--he had no real interest in running for office.
I am sure that O'Donnell will be saying, "I told ya so" on his program tonight.

Truthfully, the Republicans should be relieved that Trump is out. The "birther" business, which was designed only to grab media attention, made him seem more wacko than serious presidential material.

sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 12:06 pm
@firefly,
I actually had an opposite thought... I think he got into this whole thing for publicity reasons but his brand has really been taking a beating. The ratings for the show have been down, and it was found that before he started with the political bloviating, a big chunk of his audience had been liberals.

Can't remember where I'd read about this, here's an example though:

Quote:
But while Trump has gotten plenty of airtime by suggesting, wrongly, that the president was not born in the United States, Nielsen rating for "Celebrity Apprentice" are lower than they were a year ago -- and dropping fast. One reason Trump's audience is abandoning him may be that, according to demographic research of primetime television viewers provided exclusively to The Atlantic by National Media Inc., a firm that places political ads on television, the audience for "Celebrity Apprentice" is among the most liberal in primetime television (see graphic above). Rather than add viewers, Trump foolishly appears to be driving them away.


(I didn't include the graphic, click here if you want to see it.)

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/trumps-birther-antics-are-driving-away-his-liberal-audience/237965/

So I think he realized the stakes were too high and if he was going to stick around he'd just keep doing damage.

Maybe even the other way around with the renewal -- he promised NBC he'd drop out if they renewed.

Anyway, main thing is just that I thought it was interesting that liberals were actually a big part of his audience and that he was hurting the show that much.
Irishk
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 12:09 pm
Trump also said that if the president showed his birth certificate, he'd show his tax returns. Ha. Now he won't have to.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 12:15 pm
@littlek,
littlek wrote:

19? 19 republicans running currently? Holy cow.


That was as of mid-Feb when Nate Silver did the graphic above. I have 7 of them no longer in the race with a few others unlikely to last much longer unless they gain some traction. Not on the list is Chris Christie. He has some supporters for him, but he keeps saying he is not interested. I believe him.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 12:15 pm
@sozobe,
sozobe wrote:

I think he got into this whole thing for publicity reasons


It was a publicity stunt designed to help Obama.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 12:19 pm
@JPB,
Why is there this common theme that runs through the Republican nominee events - candidates as theater, as entertainment, as huge jokes?

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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 12:25 pm

My prediction:
The republicans will retake the Senate in 2012 and it looks like Obama will
suffer the same fate as Jimmy Carter when he tried to get re-elected.

Obama is a one term experiment that has failed miserably... he will not be missed.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 01:31 pm
@H2O MAN,
Very Good. A prediction. I haven't studied the Senate races for
a couple of weeks. As I recall, I saw the Dems as holding on there and Obama winning pretty easily.
Rasmussen had a poll recently in which 1000 Likely Republican Voters were asked whom they would support ASSUMING Huckabee, Trump and Palin decided not to run. The results:
ex-MASS gov Mitt Romney (27%)
NJ gov Chris Christie (26%) - despite his saying he is not a candidate
Wisconsin congressman Paul Ryan (12%)
ex-Minn gov Tim Pawlenty (8%)
IND gov Mitch Daniels (4%)
Other & undecided (23%)
Rasmussen acknowledged the obvious- at this point it is all about name recognition. Nothing more.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 01:57 pm
@realjohnboy,
I see you have a prediction that differs from mine.
The situation is fluid... time will tell.


Experts Predict Republicans will Re-Take the Senate in 2012
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 02:07 pm
@H2O MAN,
Check out the Obama 2008 thread in an hour or so for some polling stuff on how he does against the leading Repubs. I acknowledge that it is all pretty fluid at this point.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 16 May, 2011 02:49 pm
One last point about Cain, he deplores the "society of entitlement," by which he means social welfare. Like all self-styled conservatives, he is not referring to corporate welfare and larcenous government contracting.
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