The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

It's amazing how easily people buy into the tailored images presented by politicians.

That's how we ended up with Obama.

The sales marketing of the inexperienced and unqualified BHO was nothing short of amazing...
The dumbmasses bought into the American Idiot styled hype without question. Very sad and extremely dangerous.

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Mitt Romney is pretty much officially in. His establishment of an "exploratory" effort allows him to start raising money.

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@realjohnboy,

Is Donald Trump a serious contender for the Republican nomination? He has apparently embraced the issue that Obama was not born in the United States. Doesn't that ruin his credibility?

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@wandeljw,

Not really; there are still many tea party members and conservatives who believe Obama is Kenyan and not American. This is the level of voters we have in this country. Scary, isn't it?

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@cicerone imposter,

You have a good point, c.i. Maybe this issue will attract a large base.

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@wandeljw,

Donald Trump, IMO, has no business running for president.
As an American citizen, he certainly has the right to, but I dont think he is in any way a serious contender.
I know that there is not a chance in hell that I would vote for him.

He is an attention whore who is using this to keep his name in the public eye, nothing more.
I am going to go out on that proverbial limb and say that he withdraws his name BEFORE the primaries start, citing "pressing business concerns" as his reason to drop out.

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@mysteryman,

You could easily say the same things about GWB, MM, yet you probably voted for him twice. It's a tossup who the dumber of the two is but at least Hayhair has had some success in life.

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Donald Trump says that if he decides to run but doesn't get the Republican nomination he would likely run as an independent. He is likely to announce his plans at the end of May.

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@realjohnboy,

Perot redux?

That'd be nice.

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@sozobe,

Larry Sabato, political pundit in residence at UVA, wrote recently that people shouldn't put credence in polls or commentary about the November, 2012, elections. He then goes on with his analysis. Go figure.
CNN is out with a poll today taken 4/9-4/10:
It shows Huckabee and Trump at 19% amongst Repubs. Palin is at 12% followed by Romney and Gingrich at 11%. Paul, Bachman, Pawlenty, Dainiels and Santorum are in single digits.
The poll was taken before Romney announced he was forming an election committee (the next step in getting into the race) and before Trump got more vocal.

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Trump is certainly carving out a niche for himself, moving on from the birther issue. He was interviewed today on the Canadian Broadcasting Network.
'Well, I'll tell you what. The Koran is very interesting. A lot of people say it teaches love and there is a very big group of people who really understand the Koran better than I do. I'm certainly not an expert to put it mildly. But there's something there that teaches some very negative vibe."

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@realjohnboy,

Spoken like a true ignoramus! All he is able to do is reinforce the idea that Muslims are not to be trusted, because of the Koran.

From the bible.

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It is called herem, and it means total annihilation. Consider the Book of 1 Samuel, when God instructs King Saul to attack the Amalekites: "And utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them," God says through the prophet Samuel. "But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey."

When Saul failed to do that, God took away his kingdom.

I wonder if the Donald knows about the bible?

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@realjohnboy,

I think that Trump would make a perfect US president. The operative words are, of course, "US".

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TheDailyShow The Daily Show
Tonight: @Mittromney announced he's running for prez on Twitter. Kind of beats your tweet about watching Charles In Charge reruns.

Tweeted 33 minutes ago.

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@sozobe,

H. Ross Trump.

Fer sure.

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@Irishk,

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/04/fake_presidential_candidates.html

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Hey, did you hear who's maybe running for president? Everyone. At least that's what seemingly each and every Republican politician wants us to think these days. And why not? Just say you're "thinking about it" or "keeping your options open," and the media will suddenly lavish attention on you as if you really matter. But not everybody does. Each Friday until the primaries truly begin, we'll look at which of these prospective candidates are more likely or less likely to actually enter the race, along with a prediction of the likelihood that they throw their hat into the ring. Excluded from this rigorous scientific analysis: any candidate we're pretty sure is definitely going to run — guys like Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty, and libertarian former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson, who will reportedly announce next week.

this week's selection runs from Ron Paul (85% through John Bolton 2.8%)

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@ehBeth,

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John Bolton 2.8%)

Why is John so low? He is a liar extraordinaire. That should make him a shoo in for a Repub prez.

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Haley Barbour won another county straw poll in SC. Not noteworthy, as it seems that every county in SC is having a straw poll where a couple of hundred people get together.
Here is what is newsworthy today though about Barbour. In an interview he said "We will need a guest worker program." He seems to be saying that we need to allow Mexicans and workers from other countries into the U.S. to do jobs that Americans won't do for the wages being offered.
A decade ago, Barbour worked as a lobbyist for Mexico, earning his firm $35K a month.
I don't see how this will work out well for Barbour.

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Larry Sabato of UVA is out with this month's commentary on the 2012 Presidential race, which is now 18 months away. He notes that it is way too early to put much credence in the numbers. Rather it is an attempt to form a baseline.
Electoral Votes - with 270 needed to win:
(A) Safe Republican - 105
(B) Likely Republican - 65
(A+B) - 170
(C) Leans Republican - 10
(A+B+C) - 180

(D) Tossups - 111

(E) Safe Democrat - 182
(F) Likely Democrat - 14
(E+F) - 196
(G) Leans Democrat - 51
(E+F+G) - 247

(C+D+G) Tossups + Leans - 172

Sabato, by the way, donated to UVA an admission ticket to Lincoln's funeral. 600 were printed, only 6 are known to exist. He bought it recently at auction for "...way too much money." Charlottesville played little role in the Civil War. There was not much of strategic interest so we turned over the "keys to the city" to whichever side passed through town. UVA's hospital treated soldiers from both sides. There was the Skirmish At Rio Mill which occurred in my back field and down toward the Rivanna River. Confederate forces and Union forces under Custer accidentally encountered each other. Gunfire was exchanged and a mule died.

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@realjohnboy,

Interesting - I didn't know that about Charlottesville.
Also interesting re Sabato's take on things.

I've just been learning about a local guy here - who has recently announced going for the presidency.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/the-zen-of-gary-johnson/237706/

Haven't read the article yet, but in the sketchy news I've read, he seems to be a repub libertarian, and for making marijuana legal.

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