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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
revelette
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 09:23 am
@Frank Apisa,
Well, speaking as a democrat, I hope Gingrich sticks it out to the bitter end and his super pacs who are supposedly working independents from him, keep on running anti-Romney ads. The longer it plays it out, the better for democrats. But surely Gingrich will be pressured to give it up, wonder when he will cave?
sozobe
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 09:28 am
@revelette,
Evidently he really wants to stay until March, when a bunch of southern states will be voting and he might get a shot in the arm.
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 09:29 am
If Priebus represents the Republican party then they've got more problems than Mitt and Newt. All's fair in love and war, but politics still has a bar. Making light of a situation where people were left to drown and ultimately died is no laughing matter. This man needs to go!

Quote:
Priebus referred to President Obama as "Captain Schettino" for going on the campaign trail on CBS’s "Face The Nation" Sunday.

“We’re going to talk about our own little Captain Schettino, which is President Obama who’s abandoning the ship here in the United States and is more interested in campaigning than doing his job as president,” Priebus said.

Francesco Schettino was the captain of the Costa Concordia, the cruise ship that ran aground and partially sank off the coast of Italy earlier this month, killing at least 16 people. More
revelette
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 09:39 am
@JPB,
I would like to know what first term President does not do some campaigning? How else can he be expected to re-elected? Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time.

But yeah, that was over the top.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 09:39 am
@JPB,
Odious indeed.

Meanwhile, re: Gingrich, Sarah Palin's doing her level best, bless her heart:

“Vote for Newt. Annoy a liberal. Vote Newt. Keep this vetting process going, keep the debate going.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/289621/palin-vote-newt-annoy-liberal-katrina-trinko

(Annoy a liberal seems to be a pretty drastic misreading of the situation. The liberal is pulling for Newt, though as of right now things aren't looking so great.)
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 09:57 am

The liberal is pulling for Romney... and he can defeat Oboy.
revelette
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 09:58 am
I feel as if I am picking on the wrong candidate, but Newt Gingrich is so much more fascinating than Romney.

Quote:
In a speech to local Republicans on Saturday, he suggested that they are not the only ones who should learn the value of sweat.

Asked about the high cost of college, Gingrich said that today’s students are being coddled, with luxury dorms and lavish extras, such as lobster nights in their dining halls. And he praised institutions such as the University of the Ozarks that incorporate work into their financial aid programs.

“Students take fewer classes per semester. They take more years to get through. Why? Because they have free money,” Gingrich said. “I would tell students: ‘Get through as quick as you can. Borrow as little as you can. Have a part-time job.’ But that’s very different from the culture that has grown up in the last 20 years.”

Or maybe it is not so very different.


source

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Newt, who avoided Vietnam with student and marriage deferments, resisted taking a job. During his college years, Newt called up his father and stepmother to ask for financial help. His stepmother, Marcella McPherson, can still hear his exact words: "I do not want to go to work. I want all my time for my studies...Bob Gingrich told me he will not help me one bit. So I wondered, would you people help me?" Big Newt began sending him monthly checks.

Dolores Adamson, Gingrich's district administrator from 1978 to 1983, remembers, "Jackie put him all the way through school. All the way through the P.h.D...He didn't work." Adds Adamson, "Personal funds have never meant anything to him. He's worse than a six-year-old trying to keep his bank balance...Jackie did that."

When I ask Marianne if she keeps the checkbook for the man determined to balance the nation's budget, she laughs quietly: "Yes, I do a lot of our finances...I pretty much handle the money." She acknowledges that at the time of their marriage, in 1981, Newt was in great personal debt, "so we had to work our way out of it," a feat she says was accomplished only last year.



by Gail Sheehy
Vanity Fair September 1995


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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 10:15 am


Gingrich has tightened the gap more than most think, his bounce back began over the weekend.

Look for a very tight victory in Florida by either Mit or Newt.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 10:28 am
@H2O MAN,
I typoed, "the" should have been "this," so I can say with some certainty that this liberal (i.e. me) is pulling for Newt.

I don't think much of Romney either and I think Obama can and more likely than not will beat him in November, but I think it would be much easier to beat Newt than to beat Romney.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 10:32 am
@sozobe,
The current crop of polls certainly indicate that.

However - Obama does seem to have pulled ahead a bit over Romney as well in the last few weeks, as Romney's negatives amongst independent and moderate voters have soared:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Quote:
"In potential Election 2012 matchups, it’s President Obama 47% and Romney 41%. However, if Gingrich is his Republican opponent, the president holds a double-digit lead, 52% to 35%. That’s the president’s biggest lead over Romney since November and his largest advantage over Gingrich since October."


Cycloptichorn
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Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 11:41 am
So is it the spurt who is marking down everyone's posts? How petty it is, no matter who is doing it. If someone truly does not want to see so many consecutive posts, they should just stay out of the thread. Otherwise, all i see is a childish exercise in petty spite.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 11:44 am
@Setanta,
yes...
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 12:03 pm
Latest polls are showing a bit more hope in Florida... (Gingrich up.)

One thing I noticed to some extent in 2004, more markedly in 2008 and 2012, is that voters REALLY don't like being told who they're going to vote for.

As polls become more sensitive, more widely deployed, and more widely reported upon, we get a lot of "well, this is decided, _____ is going to win in ____, so looking ahead to implications thereof...." And then the voters say "oh yeah???" and things go a little haywire. (New Hampshire is exhibit A in 2008, South Carolina in 2012.)

I think that's been some of the volatility in this race. (Not all of it by any means, but some.) Things go one way, pundits start saying "well that's settled," and voters say "not so fast."

So, Romney certainly looked like he had Florida wrapped up very recently, but who knows.
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 03:12 pm
@sozobe,


The voters are unwilling to allow the Obama media pundits pick the nominee, this is driving the left crazy.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 03:14 pm
@H2O MAN,
The Obama media prefers Newt over Willard.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 03:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,


Ci's little brain resides in opposite land...
Obama has no desire to face Newt and the Obama media has been prepping for Mit since day one.
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 03:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Newt over Willard.

If you are going with Willard, you should probably go Newton.
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 03:29 pm
@engineer,
Agreed.
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 03:34 pm


Gingrich: I can beat Obama, 'liberal' Romney can't
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 30 Jan, 2012 03:35 pm
@engineer,
What makes you think I prefer Willard?
 

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