The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Have you got reality on ignore as well?

Do u think that reality is an onion, Izzy?

Were u expressing dissent qua something in particular ??

David

@OmSigDAVID,

I do know my onions. More of a general dissent. Incidently there was an article on the radio yesterday regarding the nomination. It said that Ron Paul was bucking the trend, most Republican supporters, as I'm sure you're aware, are a bunch of clapped-out, old has-beens, but Ron Paul actually attracts the support of young people.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I do know my onions.

"Is all that we see
and seem, but a dream within a dream?" (Poe)

izzythepush wrote:

More of a general dissent. Incidently there was an article on the radio yesterday regarding the nomination. It said that Ron Paul was bucking the trend, most Republican supporters, as I'm sure you're aware, are a bunch of clapped-out, old has-beens, but Ron Paul actually attracts the support of young people.

That 's ambiguous in regard to WHO r the "has beens".
The "supporters"??
Newt HAS BEEN Speaker of the House.
Mitt has been a governor.
Rick has been a senator.

I love Ron Paul, but he has a big hole in the bottom of his boat.
He 's not even TRYING to fix it.
His policies 'd have America (and citizens of coastal cities, in particular) playing Russian Roulette.
That is intolerable. (apologies for mixing metafors)

David

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Ron Paul gets a lot of credit for the sincerity of his candor.

David

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@Ceili,

It is also important to know that whether a state holds caucuses or a primary election, only about half of the delegate slate for the convention is chosen by that process. The remainder of the delegates are "at large," which is a disingenous way of saying that about half of the delegates at the convention will be party insiders--members of the state's party political machine, current or former office-holders, and people otherwise influential in the party.

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@Thomas,

Thomas wrote:

snood wrote:
I think Soz has expressed a couple of times that she would love for Gingrich to get the nomination. I kind of agree with her - I think Gingrich's grandiose bombast would have an eventual, inevitable backlash on him in a Fall contest against Obama.

In addition, if the Republicans nominate Gingrich and Obama delivers on his plan to take a stand on Democratic principles, the American people will have a clear up-or-down vote on what each of the parties stand for. I approve of a clear choice like that, and expect the opposite of the outcome you seem to fear from the "blind and bitter" people.

The "opposite of the outcome I seem to fear"?

In the interest of economy of words - you think Gingrich would, or would not, beat Obama?

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

izzythepush wrote:
I do know my onions.
"Is all that we see
and seem, but a dream within a dream?" (Poe)

I do hold Poe in very high regard, he was my favourite teletubby.

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That 's ambiguous in regard to WHO r the "has beens".
The "supporters"??

Yes, whenever they show Republicans over here there never seems to be anyone below the age of 60, unless they're a religious extremist.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I do know my onions.

OmSigDAVID wrote:

"Is all that we see
and seem, but a dream within a dream?" (Poe)

izzythepush wrote:

I do hold Poe in very high regard, he was my favourite teletubby.

Define that, please?
I remember reading all of Poe's works in high school.
I enjoyed a restaurant on 84th Street (just off of Broadway)
for lite meals and wonderful desserts; Edgar's Cafe.
In another century, Poe lived there.
It had good profiteroles.
Very sadly, its out of business now.

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That 's ambiguous in regard to WHO r the "has beens".
The "supporters"??

izzythepush wrote:

Yes, whenever they show Republicans over here there never seems to be anyone below the age of 60,
unless they're a religious extremist.

I 've not noticed.
For the record: I have always looked upon the GOP
as being fully secular. At its party meetings, religion
has not arisen for discussion, in my observation.

In my mind, there is no confusion between religion and politics.
Pat Robertson is a liberal because the Founders were NOT theocrats.

David

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Obama is in deep **** politically, intellectually and creatively.

Newt will make Barry show his true colors in a presidential debate and they aren't red, white and blue.

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@Ceili,

Ceili wrote:

Thanks, I'll read it toot sweet. I'm still not clear on the number of states, for example does Hawaii, or Alaska have caucuses? Or just a select few states? Or does each state send representatives from their state to the few states that hold them?
I'm not really sure if the language I'm using is correct. I find this all very confusing... Thanks for your answers though. I'll keep reading..

Not sure if this was answered specifically:

Primaries of some sort (whether a "regular" primary or the weird version, a caucus) in every single state.

It doesn't happen all at once, though, so the earlier states get a lot more attention because they have a lot more power.

The vast majority of the time, the nominee has been decided by the time the primaries come around to the last bunch of states.

Additionally, there is "Super Tuesday," when a BUNCH of states all vote on the same day.

But yes, every state has a primary of some sort, and not just Hawaii and Alaska but, like, Guam.

This will give you the whole list:

http://www.politics1.com/calendar.htm

edit: I jumped in after I saw her ask the second time but Andrew answered it handily, will leave anyway for the link.

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Will Obama be traveling to all 58 states this time?

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@snood,

snood wrote:

The "opposite of the outcome I seem to fear"?

In the interest of economy of words - you think Gingrich would, or would not, beat Obama?

I think Gingrich would lose to Obama by a landslide. I approve of that outcome because Gingrich embodies contemporary Republican ideology more authentically than Romney does, and I wish that the American people rebuke this ideology decisively. "The outcome you seem to fear", and I don't, is that Gingrich wins anyway by mobilizing enough blind and bitter voters. I got the impression that you fear it from the second half of your post, which I did not quote. If that impression was wrong, I'm happy to be corrected.

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@Thomas,

Thank you Thomas, that clears it up for me nicely.

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Mitt to release his tax returns on Tuesday, according to some reports.

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@Thomas,

all you have to do is read H2Oman and Gungasnakes posts and the "Blind Fear" issue can be readily seen.

Go NEWT!!

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If Newt gets it and loses by a landslide, he may take a lot of congressional republicans with him. That was my Perry dream-scape. So, I guess I ought to get on Newt's bandwagon.

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My guess is that the GOP party leaders are currently shitting their pants over the thought that either Newt or Santorum could win this thing, as neither has a shot in hell of beating Obama this fall.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

still, it could be one hell of a hoot with NEwt giving his "off the cuff remarks" He would make Joe Biden sound like George Bernard Shaw or JAmes McNeill WHistler

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@Lustig Andrei,

Most delegates are required to vote (some even by state law) for the candidate on the first ballot at the convention.

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@sozobe,

Wow! That is a lot of primaries. Up here, they call an election and generally, less than two months later it's over. Except for the bitching, that goes on and on and on.
Thanks again, to everyone who generously helped me understand the process.

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