@georgeob1,
Quote:There are several factors behind all this but two figure most prominently: (1) the current recession and the attendant reduction in sales and income tax receipts; (2) the rapid expansion of public employee unions and the large increases in pay and pension benefits alloted to them by Democrat legislators in the pay of these unions, and their subsequent failure to meet actuarial standards in funding these give aways in current budgets.
Uh, hello?!? You want to pin this on the Democrats?
What about Republican governors in many states, such as NJ, who actively stole money from their pension fund obligations in order to cut taxes?
The idea that the Dems are responsible for the pension problems we are currently seeing is laughable. Both parties are responsible for them.
Quote:That is merely your opinion and one you offer without any supporting argument or facts.
Fact: the 'tea party' is nothing more than the GOP. Polling has shown that there is no difference between the two of them at all and in realistic terms we see that they work in lockstep on pretty much everything.
Another fact: none of these people seemed to care too much about Bush's spending at all.
Third fact: xenophobia and racism is a large part of the force that drives the Tea Partiers. It is evident in the continued and never-ceasing attempts to prove that Obama is either a Muslim, a secret Muslim supporter, or 'not born in America.'
Conclusion: I was correct, and what more, my statements were based on facts. Any of those facts I listed, that you don't think are factual - say so. More than happy to provide attribution, but you should be warned: there are polls involved!
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It depends on just whom you have in mind. The fraction of our population paying no or very little taxes (relative to the proportional total of those collected) has grown significantly. There is lots of highly selective reporting of data on both sides here, and lots of self-serving deception in the rhetoric. The notion that every household making over $250K/year is among the uber rich is laughable, but that is the argument Obama has been making. It's easy to point to the wealth of those making a million or more each year, however taxing them more won't generate enough revenue to solve the problem. The real collections are from the great number of people in the $250K - $600K/year cadre and they are increasingly unwilling to do it - and they vote.
Those folks are grossly outnumbered by the rest of us. But, you are correct; sacrifice by any one group alone won't solve the problem.
That's why I recommend tax increases for EVERYONE - including myself - until our fiscal books are in order. I think our society would work better if more citizens had some skin in the game, and if more rich folks had much, much more skin in the game.
I think you realize - because you're not as far out there as many in your caucus - that tax increases are inevitable in our current situation. Already some of your more moderate Senators are coming to that conclusion. As I said above, it will be fun to watch the Tea Party turn its' sights on your side, once they start trying to compromise.
Cycloptichorn