The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

@Rockhead,

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"stupidity you spread on these pages."

Is Jon Huntsman's Wife a BEAUTY or a BEAUTY???

http://able2know.org/topic/183195-1

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@cicerone imposter,

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Your negative meme seems to imply there are none.

CI, when you get angry, you get really dumb.

I said,

"What ethics could there possibly be in a economic system that puts profits at the top of the list?"

That doesn't address in the slightest your inane tangent.

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@JTT,

What you wrote is here after my quote,

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@cicerone imposter,
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That's where you are wrong; there are many good business folks who really care for their workers and their welfare.

JTT wrote,

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One might wonder then, why the top 400 Americans have more than the other 150 million.

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America’s ‘Primal Scream’
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: October 15, 2011

Three factoids underscore that inequality:

¶The 400 wealthiest Americans have a greater combined net worth than the bottom 150 million Americans.

¶The top 1 percent of Americans possess more wealth than the entire bottom 90 percent.

¶In the Bush expansion from 2002 to 2007, 65 percent of economic gains went to the richest 1 percent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/opinion/sunday/kristof-americas-primal-scream.html

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You're the one who fails to respond directly to statements made by others.
What you posted didn't answer anything I wrote; just general well-known information by almost everybody in this world - except you.

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Seemed to be another repeat debate performance by all.

Gingrich had the most applause lines, as usual.

Paul drove away anyone leaning in his direction with his foreign policy comments.

Romney took a lot of shots without shedding much blood.

Santorum and Perry perfumed as usual.

Probably see something of a bounce for Newt in the polls.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Seemed to be another repeat debate performance by all.

Gingrich had the most applause lines, as usual.

Paul drove away anyone leaning in his direction with his foreign policy comments. . . .

Yeah, if I were not so much against getting nuked,
I 'd like to go with a Ron Paul Presidency.

David

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WILL ALL OF YOU TROLLS PLEASE GET THE HELL OFF REALJOHNBOY's THREAD?! He's very even-tempered but I'm begining to get pissed off. Stop the ****, y'all, and I don't give a flying **** which end of the political spectrum you represent.

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@Lustig Andrei,

To be fair when this thread was first started, the republican field was wide open and through the process they went through a lot of front runners and in the end, Romney is probably going to be the one left standing. So the focus is pretty much on Romney. I guess a thread needs to open up concerning just Romney and his policies vs. Obama or something for people like myself if we can't comment on Romney and his record here?

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@revelette,

I don't think Andy was referring to discussions about Romney's record, rev. There is already a thread about the 2012 general election though.
http://able2know.org/topic/169990-1

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@JPB,

ok, thanks

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I see, Revelette, that you found the thread regarding the general election. It is a bit sleepy right now, but it should pick up. Welcome.
I suspect that, after the debate last night, Newt could well narrow the margin vs Mitt to single digits. The standing ovation he got was, perhaps, more telling than it appears on the surface.
Mitt's tax return thing is, in my mind, little more than voyeurism. He says that he will release stuff after April 15th, which happens to be after most of the primaries. I was amused by his comment that most of his income comes from investments but he added that "...I get speakers fees from time to time, but not very much." From 2/10 to 2/11 it was $360,000.
I remain convinced that this is not a done deal for Romney because of the way delegates are awarded, but the clock is ticking.

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@realjohnboy,

That income tax disclosure is kind of weird. The nomination winner traditionally releases after the primaries are all but done, so it can't affect that process, but if it holds any skeletons there's plenty of time for the incumbent president to use it. Strange.

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@realjohnboy,

I don't think it's voyeurism at all - the fact is that he's proposing to lower his own taxes significantly, while raising them on some lower- and middle-income families, while he already pays next to nothing for doing no work whatsoever.

There's also going to be some discussion about the 'carried-interest' rule and how Mitt has utilized that to turn regular income into 'cap gains' income, to avoid paying the highest rate of taxes on quite a bit of money every year.

These things matter - it's going to be difficult for him to avoid the labels the DNC hangs on him, when it's revealed how little he pays, the lengths he goes to to pay so little, and his intentions to pay even less.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

I think that kind of issue is way beyond the comprehension of most voters.

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@realjohnboy,

It was a rowdy crowd but that's what was to be expected. It wasnt a cross section of South Carolinians or even of primary voters.

I wouldn't be voting for Newt but I probably would have stood up with the rest of the audience

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

I think that kind of issue is way beyond the comprehension of most voters.

Oh, it all depends on how it's framed by Axelrod and his bunch. Voter understand that Romney is just like the execs and bosses of their companies, who line their pockets while denying raises (or laying off) people like them. That's all they really need to understand.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

The flaw in your Marxist argument is that everyone in this country doesn't hate their boss.

There is though a small segment of hard core complainers in every company who piss and moan about anything and everything managemqent does. These miscreants are black holes sucking the life out of offices and plents.

I am dead sure you are one of these malcontents, as you spend your days posting to this forum on your employer's time.

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@Cycloptichorn,

That's a point well taken, but Romney still seems to hang on to top spot with conservatives thus far. I'm just not sure why the evangelicals have not had much influence when they're pushing Santorum.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

The flaw in your Marxist argument is that everyone in this country doesn't hate their boss.

It has nothing to do with 'hating' your boss. It has to do with whether or not you believe someone has YOUR best interests in mind - or someone else's.

Just take the same argument you constantly make against the Dems and flip it over, and you'll see what I mean.

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I am dead sure you are one of these malcontents, as you spend your days posting to this forum on your employer's time.

You have no ******* clue about what I do on my 'employers' time, Finn. Or my attitude towards the management. Just to clear it up for you, I happen to get along great with the management of my company - I get paid for performance (which I do exceedingly well) and they could care less about anything else.

But, don't let that stop you from letting your inner asshole shine through.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

He's not capable of doing that.

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@cicerone imposter,

It's pretty easy when Mitt pays 15% of his gross in taxes and I pay 22% and he makes 10 times what I do.

It's already pretty well known that most of Mitt's income is from long term capital gains which is taxed at 15% with no FICA take out of it.

It will also be an easy math comparison between the Obama tax return and Romney's. The "I'm just like you" argument may get difficult to believe.

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