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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 02:54 pm
@spendius,
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That profit builds hospitals, orphanages and welfare systems.


We don't have to reduce this to a black and white, capitalism versus communism idea, Spendi, for that's hardly what I was suggesting.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 03:01 pm
@roger,
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I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy prisoners, either.


It's not your sense of imagination that has me concerned, Rog, it's your "grasp" of reality.
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parados
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 03:04 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

I dunno. I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy prisoners, either.


Easier to just bribe judges....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal


Similar issue in SD with kids being taken from families and put into system that profits certain people.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 03:58 pm
@JTT,
I did have you on Ignore. So?
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 04:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
A number of times, if I'm not mistaken, CI.

But doncha think that's kinda a real minor issue compared to how badly y'all have let successive governments royally **** up pretty much everything the US is supposed to stand for?

And it goes on daily, this terrorism. Do you think that the CIA crew sits around knitting doilies.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 04:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Please dont paint me as one who is "buying it". I merely brought up the point to propose how the GOP is gonna polish its monkey.
Bain Capital may have run its course and if they dig deep enough, it has had a higher percentage of "fixing" companies and re- connecting companies that had otherwise been underperforming. Bains reputation was never that dire.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 04:08 pm
@cicerone imposter,
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Romney was once "free choice," but has changed to "no abortion under any circumstances."
I dont think the Dems will have to engage Wagner to come up with the libretto for this election. Romney is a flopper on everything. He is not connected to the common man, hes got views on the Military and rules of engagement that have kept changing , so he may be the best for Obama, unless the Obama liberal base sees Romney as one of us.

Think like a GOP and try to come up with a line youd want to present in favor of Romney.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 04:56 pm
@farmerman,
He may have "fixed" companies, but he claimed he created over 100,000 net jobs. That's an outright lie.
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revelette
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 07:49 pm
@farmerman,
Yeah but the way they fixed up companies was to lay people off or fire them and/ or take away their pensions. In this day of high unemployment, of having your job shipped overseas and inequality of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and middle class getting poorer, I think, the Bain thing is not going to go away.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 08:31 pm
"America is a moral enterprise, not an economic enterprise," Rick Santorum...

that's some scary ****.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 08:42 pm
@Rockhead,
That sure is scary, Rocky. What's also so scary is how is it possible that Santorum could be so ignorant of the history of the USA?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 08:45 pm
@Rockhead,
That's not scary, it's downright idiocy!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 09:16 pm
Huntsman - did I spell it right? - says he is dropping out. He will endorse Romney.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 10:11 pm
@Rockhead,
It's also arrant hypocrisy coming from a Republican . . .
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firefly
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 11:22 pm
Quote:
The New York Times
January 15, 2012
Multiplied by PACs, Ads Overwhelm the Airwaves in S.C.
By JEREMY W. PETERS

COLUMBIA, S.C. — They have been inescapable: growling baritone announcers and grainy images of sneering candidates. Mitt Romney is a corporate raider. Newt Gingrich’s politics are desperate and disgusting.

Anyone who happened to be near a working television in South Carolina over the weekend was exposed to one of the most concentrated and expensive barrages of political advertising that this state has ever experienced.

With the traditional efforts of candidates now multiplied by the presence of the well-financed “super PACs” supporting them, political operatives outbid and outmaneuvered one another in a last-minute race to buy up what time remained on the airwaves between now and the state’s Republican presidential primary on Saturday. None would risk having their messages drowned out by those of their rivals.

Want to advertise on “60 Minutes,” as Mr. Romney did on Sunday? His campaign had to get WLTX, the CBS station here, to bump a super PAC that was actually running ads supporting him. It agreed to pay $3,000 for a 30-second slot — $100 a second, almost double the usual rate.

Rick Santorum, running as a family-values social conservative, put his campaign’s money into the Hollywood machine he so often denounces, booking time on NBC during the Golden Globes and “30 Rock.” He also bought ads during “Saturday Night Live,” which has mocked him and his ubiquitous sweater vest.

And super PACs, eager to be seen during the N.F.L. playoff game on Saturday featuring the Denver Broncos’ Tim Tebow, bought up slots that were spoken for weeks ago, paying premiums to knock advertisers like Hardee’s, Jeep and the Ford Motor Company to later times.

“It’s like carpet-bombing,” said Scott Sanders, general sales manager for WIS, the NBC station in Columbia. “They’re waiting until the last two weeks to reach everyone they can. He who shouts the loudest last might win.”

The arms race at television stations across South Carolina is the most vivid manifestation yet of the influx of outside money into American politics this election cycle. Because of a Supreme Court decision that paved the way for the creation of the super PACs — groups that can raise and spend unlimited amounts of money advocating for a candidate as long as they do not coordinate with the campaign — the messaging wars are reaching new levels of intensity.

Five Republican presidential candidates are advertising on television here. In addition, seven super PACs have run commercials alongside them. (Mr. Romney has two groups taking up his cause, Restore Our Future and Citizens for a Working America. And a PAC supporting Jon M. Huntsman Jr., who informed his advisers on Sunday that he intended to drop out of the race, has been advertising here, though Mr. Huntsman himself has not.)

Candidates and super PACs have committed about $8 million to advertising here on broadcast TV since the beginning of December, according to figures provided by a Republican strategist who closely monitors media spending.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/16/us/politics/in-south-carolina-record-barrage-of-political-ads.html?_r=1&hp

S.C. viewers must be ready to scream from that amount of political advertising.
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jan, 2012 11:24 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Fox News reports John Huntsman is dropping out of race.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2012 01:00 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
but the left wing of the Dem party (ultra left) has nothing good to say about NFL.


I'm not of that crowd but I have something nice to say about NFL football. It's as exciting as watching paint dry.


To what crowd do you admit memberhip?

As for your NFL crack, you have now proven that you are a woman or a gender conflicted man.

It's one thing to hate the American military, but to insult football...
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2012 01:04 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
It's one thing to hate the American military, but to insult football...


allow me to finish that sentence for you, Finn.

Quote:
. . . is unAmerican.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2012 01:09 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
Romney was once "free choice," but has changed to "no abortion under any circumstances."
I dont think the Dems will have to engage Wagner to come up with the libretto for this election. Romney is a flopper on everything. He is not connected to the common man, hes got views on the Military and rules of engagement that have kept changing , so he may be the best for Obama, unless the Obama liberal base sees Romney as one of us.

Think like a GOP and try to come up with a line youd want to present in favor of Romney.


And so I suppose that you have remained true to each and every conclusion you reached when you reached the age of majority.

Romney is a "flip-flopper," while someone who changes their mind once their opinion actually affects fellow human beings (and happens to be a Democrat) is wise and flexible.

Oh, and by the way, Obama has never flip flopped, he has reconsidered the facts as they are and wisely changed his mind.

For a scientist FM you are mighty irrational when it comes to politics, but hasn't that almost always been the case?

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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2012 01:12 am
@Lustig Andrei,
Lustig Andrei wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
It's one thing to hate the American military, but to insult football...


allow me to finish that sentence for you, Finn.

Quote:
. . . is unAmerican.



Yes Lustig, you got it!

Don't tell me you are a commie pinko who doesn't watch football.
 

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