The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

@georgeob1,

And now, it seems as if fate itself is conspiring to damn our predictions completely.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/davidcatanese/0211/Kyl_to_retire_.html

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Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl will announce he won't seek another term at a press conference in his home state Thursday morning, POLITICO has learned.

The third-term Kyl was first elected to the Senate in 1994.

A GOP operative notes that the last time Arizona elected a Democrat to the U.S. Senate was 1988 -- 22 years ago.

Kyl becomes the fifth senator and second Republican to retire ahead of the 2012 cycle.

This is a legitimate pick-up opportunity for the Dems now; and there's every likelihood that the Obama crew will be targeting AZ heavily this cycle due to their good results their last election and the large Hispanic population.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

Interesting. There will probably be a few more of these announcements in the coming year. I'm not willing to concede that Arizona will elect a Democrat Senator, or that events of the past two years have yielded significant net improvements for Democrats there. However, surprises are common enough in these things - we'll have to wait and see.

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

Interesting. There will probably be a few more of these announcements in the coming year. I'm not willing to concede that Arizona will elect a Democrat Senator, or that events of the past two years have yielded significant net improvements for Democrats there. However, surprises are common enough in these things - we'll have to wait and see.

The Dems in AZ are claiming today that they are going to wait for Giffords to get better enough to decide if she wants the seat Shocked

It would be hard to run against her, for sure. She'd be a media darling. But I doubt she has nay desire.

Re: Dems in AZ, the last two years haven't been especially great for them there in terms of what has gone on, I get that. But Obama came within 9 points there in '08, when it was his opponents' home state, which is NOT a bad result! What more, the increasing radicalization of the right-wing in that state could serve as a strong motivating factor for Democrats.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

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when it was his opponents' home state,

Who was his opponent again?

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An Early Look at Obama's Re-election Bid

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@H2O MAN,

That was my main source for a commentary I wrote a couple of days ago, H2O.
Meanwhile, the stars have lined up with regards to Obama's approval ratings in polls released by several of them sort of at the same time.
Gallup (2/8-2/10 1500A): Approve 47% vs Disapprove 44% (+3)
Rasmussen (2/8-2/10 1500LV): Approve 50% vs Disapprove 49% (+1)
Fox (2/7-2/9 911RV): Approve 51% vs Disapprove 43% (+8)
Reuters (2/4-2/7 1112A): Approve 51% vs Disapprove 46% (+5)
Pew (2/2-2/7 1385A): Approve 49% vs Disapprove 42% (+7)

RCP Average: Approve 50% vs Disapprove 45% (+5)

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So there is this CPAC thing in DC. I reckon I sort of expected that Republicans following this thread might comment on the speeches being made to the 11,000 attendees by potential presidential candidates. But I am hearing nothing.
Why is that?
Almost half of the people there are college students who got in for a deeply discounted price ($35). They, along with the other participants, with do a straw poll tomorrow.
I am curious, of course, about how that will turn out. But more then that I wonder whether the Repub leadership is somehow dismissing CPAC.
Okie, Georgeob, H2O etc. Can you comment? Thank you.

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@realjohnboy,

Looks pretty decent to me! Mr. Green

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@realjohnboy,

You think they would learn something from the left and buss in the
homeless and union workers to make the crowds bigger and louder.

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@realjohnboy,

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Almost half of the people there are college students who got in for a deeply discounted price ($35). They, along with the other participants, with do a straw poll tomorrow.

People have to pay to hear politicians campaign for jobs the people, their bosses will give them.

How stupid is that!

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@cicerone imposter,

I was responding to rjb's, Fri 11 Feb, 2011 07:27 pm, post.

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The CPAC Straw Poll is over with, for what it is worth.
Ron Paul: 30%; Mitt Romney: 23%; Gary Johnson: 6%; Chris Christie: 6%; Newt Gingrich: 5%; Tim Pawlenty: 4%; Michelle Bachman: 4%; Mitch Daniels: 4%; Sarah Palin: 3%; Herman Cain: 2%; Mike Huckabee: 2%; Rick Santorum: 2%; John Thune: 2%; John Huntsman: 1%; Haley Barbour: 1%.

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@realjohnboy,

dave is liable to shoot his self in the foot if he sees this, he'll be so excited...

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@Rockhead,

I find it somewhat amusing, RH, that I seem to be the only person on A2K following CPAC. Ironic that I, a liberal Dem, have seen all of the speeches. I have tried to report as dispassionately as I am able to but our Republican brethren here have said very little.
I am left wondering why that is.

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@realjohnboy,

I think it's because conservatives are lost in their own battles in congress, and they don't seem to have a viable leader that sparks their confidence in what's happening.

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Palin hires chief of staff, fuelling speculation of 2012 run

400+ googlenews blurbs on this

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@Cycloptichorn,

Why is it that Republicans rarely claim any more that they are in the party of Lincoln? The reason is that Lincoln did not match those who now claim to be Republicans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha212

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@Advocate,

True; although people like okie love to make the claim that Lincoln was a republican.

What makes it ironic and funny is that Lincoln was responsible for the Civil War to outlaw slavery that was essentially a war between the north and south (now predominantly home of conservatives), and he was the first to authorize income taxes.

okie always makes a fool of himself, because he fails to understand history and facts.

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PPP: Obama leads GOP front runners in eight major swing states...

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In 2008 Barack Obama won nine states and one electoral vote giving Congressional district that had gone to George W. Bush in 2004. We’ve now polled every single one of those over the last three months except for Indiana, where we can’t do one because of restrictions on automated polling in the state. Across 36 horse race match ups against Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, and Mitt Romney in Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Colorado, New Mexico, Virginia, Iowa, Nevada, and Nebraska’s 2nd Congressional District Obama is 36 for 36. If he stood for reelection today against one of the current Republican front runners Obama would almost certainly win the same number of electoral votes he did in 2008, if not more.

Breakdown at the link.

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@realjohnboy,

http://assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/GOP%20president%20FOX.jpg

Mike Huckabee ranks atop the GOP presidential field, according to the latest 2012 poll, released Friday afternoon by Fox News.

So, it seems like so far Obama is winning the polls. Gosh, is it almost election time already? Seems like we just got done but November 2011 primaries will be here before you know it. We'll see how if Huckabee gets ahead of Obama by then. Or maybe Donald Trump, I think he is considering running?

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