The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

It is one of the greats. I like the bit where he suddenly switches the narrative to Montevideo, over brandy and cigars.

Yes, you were, but, your thoughts were that those free market folks and the 1 percenters had a right to your body, which means, in your mind, it wasn't sodomy.

Brilliant! So true!

Cain's 999 plan is a negative? Then why is Cain promoting it so strongly?

Romney's flip flopping is a negative? I see the ability to change your mind as a positive.

As for Bachmann, you just haven't spent enough time around her. She is out there.

Bachmann
Really? God is talking to us through the earthquakes and hurricanes?

There is no empirical evidence of this ever happening but Bachmann seems to have taken the word of one woman without evidence. It got play for a couple of weeks including, scientists and doctors saying she was looney tunes, only in nicer terms.

Was she channeling Joe McCarthy? Or does she really think people that don't agree with her are anti-American?


The crazy woman urged people to not fill out their Census forms, for heaven's sake.
She is out there Finn. She's just learned to control the crazy for the debates.

We can agree that it is not hard to grasp. (Did someone claim that it WAS?)

The concept of a unicorn is not hard to grasp.





David

yes I have. Ive also read the bible and it is mainly a written version of spoken myths from before there was recorded language. Not the absolute truth the religious claim it to be.

I always thought it was a political document created by The Council Of Nicaea, to firmly entrench the Emperor Constantine's power.

GOP Clown College--Newt Gingrich

Naw, Constantine had no power issues which religion could affect. He just called that council to get the idiot christians to stop squabbling with each other because it was cutting into imperial finance. At that time, christianity was still largely an obnoxious cult of the Hellenistic world, and he had just transfered the imperial power from the western, Roman world to the eastern, Hellenistic world. Contrary to bullshit christian propaganda, he did not make christianity the official state religion. He just wanted them to shut the **** up and get down to business as usual so he could tax them and turn his attention to matters of more interest to himself.

Which is exactly like the problem we have in the United States today--a small, annoying and fanatically dangerous group of fundamentalist sects who get far more attention than they deserve and wield far too much influence in politics.

Maybe, but still a lot better than obama.





David

You;ve been spending WAY too much time at the circus if you think that, David.

He did use it to begin the process of making Christianity the State religion, which in terms of controlling the masses has been quite successful.



You have this problem, but you don't have a state religion. We do, and most people don't really give it much thought. Is that a possible solution, turn all your priests into bureaucrats, weigh them down with paperwork? They might be too tired to do anything else.

farmerman once suggested taking them all to a "re-education centre" which I assume he fancied being in charge of.

He could start off by teaching some of them basic English, which is not a problem that's confined to the religious nutters.

No, Constantine had no interest and took no steps to make christianity the state religion. That's just christian propaganda, like that bullshit about a deathbed conversion on his part.

One of the very good reasons we have a separation of church and state was the reaction to established religion in England.

I don't mind it when you point out any factual errors I make, at least you know what you're talking about. I was just trying to give RL a bit of historical perspective. RL seems to be going through 'the long dark night of the soul, and seems desperate for some sort of spiritual guidance. For some reason, and for the life of me I can't think why, he seems to view me as some sort of religious guru, and he needs my own personal take on The Bible.

When I did try to explain some of the historical details, I got some of the facts wrong, as you've pointed out, so he really needs to go elsewhere for his spiritual nourishment. He has to work out what he thinks for himself, and stop treating my opinion as some sort of epiphany. This all started when I called him a hebetudinous fuckwit, and though he did not question the accuracy of the statement, he did question its morality.

He's obviously very confused, he even doubts the existence of The Bible. I think it's not the only book he believes is purely imaginary, it's clear he doubts the existence of a good dictionary. I think he should study The Bible in depth, that is if he can believe in it's existence. He may then start to discover answers to those questions about the Bible than continue to haunt us all, like 'Was The Gospel According To Luke really written by a bloke called Luke?'

Failing that he could read a good book on the subject like, Being A God Nut by Jason Goldman published by Bell End Press. It could be out of print, so he should contact either JGoldman10 or VoiceInThe Darkness, and do exactly what they tell him to do. Whether or not he reaches spititual enlightenment is a moot point, but it should give the rest of us a good laugh.

Perhaps you'd like to give him some counsel.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry. RL's spiritual problems are something in which i have no interest. I applaud your good nature; i don't intend to improve my own character by emulating it. What i've seen of RL suggests to me that he gets his knowledge of the world and his world view from videos he finds online. He seems to think that a good source. However, i would compare hunting up videos on the interweb in order to obtain enlightenment to chatting up people in libraries rather than following the discipline of a university education. There's no telling what sort of awful bullshit you'll be exposed to, and might even take seriously. Maybe RL is in university--maybe it's not meeting his needs. Maybe he just has a computer and too much time on his hands.

To be quite frank I don't have a lot of interest in RL's spiritual needs either, but that doesn't stop him asking me about The Bible all the time.

Good analogy btw.

Might I humbly direct your worships and reverences to Chapters XX of Edward Gibbon's The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire which I have as little doubt you have heard of as I have that you have managed to avoid studying.

It does provide an object lesson, the whole tome I mean, in how to approach and think of history so that one might the better dispense with the admittedly delicious temptations of disposing of long centuries and epochs with a casual, throwaway phrase or two.

George IV