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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 12:03 pm
@izzythepush,
Do you mean like the bible or some other fictional book that you admire? Rolling Eyes
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 12:08 pm
@izzythepush,
It seems to me that Romney (like his dad) is a R.I.N.O., an imposter.

I don 't see that he shares Republican philosophy.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 12:12 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:
I agree with you that the best strategy for the Repubs is to unite under a "Beat Obama" banner even if it means holding their noses when they step into voting booths.
I have said before, though, that Paul is 76 years old. It is his last go round and I could well see him, as he has hinted, run as an Indy.
Then he 'd be running as a spoiler. That is pro-obama.
Paul 'd not do that.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 01:22 pm
@reasoning logic,
Any book will do, why not the Origin of Species?

By the way, The Bible is not a fictional book, it really does exist. You may think it is just a piece of fiction however, and if you had read a book, you might even be able to express that. Instead you've made the ridiculous allegation that The Bible doesn't even exist. See what happens when you use emoticons instead of your brain?
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 01:25 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Isn't the best strategy to elect someone competent first? I think you should be able to support a candidate in these primaries who reflects your politics. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anyone competent enough. Maybe you should stand next time, you're more electable than most of that bunch.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 01:43 pm
@izzythepush,
You can stick up for God's word better than that cant you? Just come out and say what you mean, "It is nonfiction and every thing in it is factual! If that is what you mean.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 01:55 pm
@reasoning logic,
You're being quite emotional now aren't you?

There's plenty of people on A2K who can stick up for The Bible, I'll leave that to them. I'm more interested in your inability to distinguish between what is real, and what is imaginary. And why you think someone who has obviously never read a book, thinks his opinion of any book should matter.

You're still not using speech marks correctly either. There's no point in me giving you advice if you won't take it. Go and read a book, and then see if you can post a sentence that isn't ludicrous.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 01:56 pm
@parados,
I can see how this would be amusing to people who see only the negative of these candidates, and in most cases the cartoon does a pretty good job in lampooning those negatives.

The one exception, in my opinion, is Michelle Bachman.

I've watched all of the debates save one, and read the commentary on that one, not once did Bachmann say anything approaching bizzare. Of course, given my bias, I might have missed it and so for those of you who agree that she is crazy, perhaps you can point out what I missed.

If you want bizzare, listen to Ron Paul.

The fence that is intended to keep illegal aliens out will keep us in!

Yet he takes very little heat.

Is it because he has virtually no chance to win the nomination? Neither does Bachmann, she's polling below Paul.

No, it's more of the hysterical liberal reaction to conservative women.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:00 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
You're still not using speech marks correctly either. There's no point in me giving you advice if you won't take it.


You are learning well grasshopper! Could it be the way in which you come across?
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:05 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
What is the difference? If you vote for a Democrat or a republican, "Wall street, Big Banks and Corporations still end up running things!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:06 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I don't know much about her other than her rampant homophobia, and her mistaken belief that the founding fathers fought against slavery. I think such a basic mistake should rule her out, I'm not American, and I know that's complete bollocks.

Just wanted to respond to someone other than RL, I'm getting a bit tired of talking to him, he's no fun.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:07 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Isn't the best strategy to elect someone competent first?
NO! Stalin was competent to lead his empire; he DID it, creating a hell on Earth.
The danger is that we 'll get someone who 'll pull the (figurative)
rope in the rong direction.



izzythepush wrote:
I think you should be able to support a candidate in these primaries who reflects your politics.
Maybe Governor Perry; he's not perfect, but probably the best available.




izzythepush wrote:
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anyone competent enough.
Maybe you should stand next time, you're more electable than most of that bunch.
I 'm not electable, but I 'd do better in the debates than most of them did.
Perry fell down in debate n Cain is shockingly uninformed,
evidently from years n decades of ignoring the newspapers,
not only qua modern history, but regarding current events,
e.g. Libya 's revolution, precipitated by obama n aided by NATO.





David
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:11 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
So a competent Republican would be like Stalin? Well at least you're being honest.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:29 pm
@izzythepush,
We view this race from different perspectives:

Virtually no conservative considers Obama competent, and disagrees with most of his policies.

On the other hand, there is certainly objective evidence to suggest that at least Romney, Cain, Huntsman, Perry and Johnson have a record of competent executive experience.

In addition, each one of the candidate advocates more conservative apprecitated policies than Obama.

Gingrich and Santorum have had successful legislative careers and, once again, most of the policies they promote are favored by conservatives.

I don't think Bachmann and Paul have not demonstrated much success (other than in getting elected) during their careers, but they are no less experienced than Obama was when he won the presidency. Yet again, most of their positions resonate with conservatives.

Not one of thee candidates would be my first choice, if I was allowed to make the choice, but you have to play the cards your dealt.

If you believe the current president is an incompetent executive and you ideologically disagree with a great many of his policies, it's not hard to imagine throwing the lever on Election Day for any of these candidates should they obtain the nomination. In a number of cases, you will be crossing your fingers and hoping they surround themselves with first class advisors, but when Obama won, there was very little hope, or reality, around that.

It would take a moderate Democrat with a strong record of executive achievement (I can only imagine a governor; never a legislator, community activist, or professor) but I could see me contemplating voting Democrat. No such Demcrat candidate will be on the ballot in 2012.

I think the Anyone but Romney movement is counter-productive.

There is no guarantee that any of the Republican candidates can beat Obama, but if, for the sake of argument, Romney is the only one who has a chance, then I far prefer that he run than a more stalwart conservative who is sure to be defeated.

Right now, for a number of reasons, the only two Republican candidates who I feel have a very good chance of defeating Obama are Romney and Hunstman. The latter will almost assuredly not win the nomination, and the former very likely will.

Each have a long experience of executive competence, and both are far more conservative than Obama.




Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:33 pm
@reasoning logic,
If that's the case, then Wall Street, Big Banks and Corporations have this interesting tendency to be more liberal when their White House puppet is a Democrat, and more conservative when the puppet is a Republican.

So I'm voting for the conservative puppet.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:35 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I don't know anything about Hunstman. I can see why you would disagree with Obama politically, but he seems fairly competent to me. I don't see any monumental cock ups.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:37 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
It is all for show! What really matters is that they do what they have been paid to do by the big money that got them there!
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:38 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
So a competent Republican would be like Stalin? Well at least you're being honest.
The core value of the GOP is PERSONAL FREEDOM,
at the expense of jurisdiction, strangled by the Bill of Rights.

The more we strangle government,
the freer we all are!!!




David
RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 02:43 pm
@izzythepush,
How about a book of fiction than?
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 03:22 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Executive experience is over-rated
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