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The Republican Nomination For President: The Race For The Race For The White House

 
 
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 04:45 pm
@Ticomaya,
I don't know that I would vote for Obama regardless. I have real questions about his leadership ability which was my main hesitancy in voting for him the first time around. But I definitely cannot see any of the current crop of Republican candidates as offering any improvement. If Obama gets my vote it will largely be by default. Right now, I'd rather give him a chance at a second term than cast my lot with any of these genuinely uninspiring Republicans.
I'm concerned about the welfare of my country, not the welfare of either political party.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 04:47 pm
@realjohnboy,
He'll have to appear a lot more vulnerable before that happens.

The MSM, in his pocket, aren't about to air what they think will be a self-fulfilling prophecy

Until then Romney will benefit from the electability factor.
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spendius
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 04:55 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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The ones that make the most logical arguments for their position are the ones who come across the most heartless.


If I have time tomorrow Finn I shall make an attempt to be heartless.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 04:57 pm
@firefly,
Putting everything else aside, it's not as if abortion has been the #1 topic of the debates.

If the Republican candidates perceive abortion is the most important issue to Republican voters they are all going to talk about it no matter how much pro-choice advocates would like to see them move on to other topics.

If its the single most important issue to Republican voters then that's what the candidates should be talking about.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 05:00 pm
@realjohnboy,
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Someone made a comment about there being an abortion thread on A2K. Why isn't that thread being used?


Because we are in another pub here. We have no objection to anybody crossing over to the other pub. We don't change pubs when the subject changes otherwise I would have been required to be all over the county tonight all at once.

You are a pompous git John. Finn was right.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 05:01 pm
@spendius,
I think you have misinterpreted what I wrote unless you plan on making a pro-choice argument.
Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 05:13 pm
I think this is pretty hilarious. Supporters of abortion would likely enjoy nothing more than seeing the Republicans thrashing one another on the subject of abortion. But whether nor not they will, we can't really say here. However, it has become an issue for Cain because he has stupidly made it an issue. If, however, he drops the subject, and the press (largely owned and controlled by conservatives) leaves him alone about it, then very likely there will have been more hot air expended on the subject here than in the fight for the Republican nomination.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 05:20 pm
@firefly,
What you miss out in your interesting post ff is professional common sense operated by admittedly flawed professionals.

Those unborn kids with Tay-Sachs are a very long way from 50 million abortions since Roe/Wade and those involved with the former are, presumably, trying to make the best of a bad job in terms of their own attitudes. Having the utmost sympathy with their predicament does not equate with sympathy for the destruction of the 50 million.

What is the incidence of Tay-Sachs and why does the condition have a scary name rather than it just being another unlucky baby who died in infancy?

I think you are being pedantic about something beyond human understanding. You could bring driving to a halt with such a forced and silly argument. Or riding on the Big Dipper.

There is a big difference between being unlucky in having a drug abusing mother and an official approval of 50 million abortions from which tax is collected.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 05:42 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Those conservative candidates are trying to win the evangelicals with their rhetoric on abortion.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 05:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
No kidding?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 05:44 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Really; no kidding! Mr. Green
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 07:04 pm
This is more about life than it is about ocw. I thought it went along with the discussion about abortions!

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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 07:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Doesn't make any difference which party she belongs to. The issues she addresses are self-explanatory. Address what she says, not which party she belongs to - which has no bearing.

Mind your own beeswax, c.i. I wasn't talking to you.
Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 07:58 pm
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
I don't have a card. and my vote won't count, because I live among idiots.

Not talking to you either.

Quote:
maybe you guys should get a secret republican group together so you won't have to listen to opinions you dislike as you select the next George Bush.

I wish!
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 08:01 pm
@Ticomaya,
I'll send you a link to the secret website via PM
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 08:26 pm
@spendius,
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But that is a natural process and not an artificial one like having a vote in the USSC and setting up clinics with official sanction with the government taking taxes off the participants.


Women have used abortifacients probably since Cro-Magnon days. What if the motherly instinct says not to have this child?

Has anyone who is against abortion for religious reasons ever considered that perhaps God wanted people to figure out how to abort a fetus?
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What does an abortion do to the mental state of the woman when she matures fully?

Perhaps, the woman is glad that she aborted a child who is mentally or physically defective. Perhaps, she is glad that she aborted a child she could not afford to adequately feed, clothe and shelter.

I say the unnatural woman gives her child up for adoption particularly when the adopting couple are Christian, right-wing conservative Republicans.
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The extreme secrecy tells you the answer to that. She has denied her very nature.

First of all, what extreme secrecy? Second, perhaps to protect herself from the pro-life fanatics.

What about the high school seniors who give birth to their boyfriends' babies and then show up at a college in the fall, and sit and gossip during their classes or text constantly? The babies would be better off aborted.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 08:29 pm
@firefly,
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The issue of abortion really does not belong in a presidential race, except that the current crop of Republican candidates


Maybe some of the men who are against abortion just want to prove that they are capable of having sex
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 09:09 pm
@Ticomaya,
When you post on a2k, it's becomes public. I don't know what "mind your own beeswax" means, anywhoos.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 09:09 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

Quote:
The issue of abortion really does not belong in a presidential race, except that the current crop of Republican candidates


Maybe some of the men who are against abortion just want to prove that they are capable of having sex

Drunk
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 24 Oct, 2011 09:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

When you post on a2k, it's becomes public. I don't know what "mind your own beeswax" means, anywhoos.


You're 76 and have never heard of mind you own beeswax?
 

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