McGentrix
 
  -3  
Sun 20 Dec, 2015 11:27 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

google Hawkeye + rape. How can you deny hawkeye promoted rape and child porn? You're beginning to get tiring. Back on ignore with you.


I get a lot Alan Alda Mash quotes.
Lash
 
  -2  
Mon 21 Dec, 2015 07:22 am
@McGentrix,
That's hilarious.
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revelette2
 
  2  
Mon 21 Dec, 2015 08:17 am
@McGentrix,
It was a couple of years ago back when some republicans were trying make out like rape was ok, I remember both Bill and Hawkeye were both making remarks to imply not all rape is rape.
snood
 
  3  
Mon 21 Dec, 2015 08:55 am
@revelette2,
revelette2 wrote:

It was a couple of years ago back when some republicans were trying make out like rape was ok, I remember both Bill and Hawkeye were both making remarks to imply not all rape is rape.

Yeah, you're not imagining it. They're both big on rape victim-blaming.
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ehBeth
 
  2  
Mon 21 Dec, 2015 09:43 am
@revelette2,
At last sighting, they were both still saying that.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Mon 21 Dec, 2015 11:53 am
@ehBeth,
Poor Hawkeye thanks to Robert he is not saying anything on this system currently but you are right as a matter of fact as I am now debating with Robert the issue of the right or lack of right of adults to consent to sex.

See http://able2know.org/topic/158723-539#post-6092903
revelette2
 
  2  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 08:08 am
5 worst right-wing moments of the week — The Donald’s campaign spokesperson is the dead-eyed face of Tea Party lunacy

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revelette2
 
  2  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 08:18 am
Look at the make-up on this character as he talks about white working class Americans.

http://media.salon.com/2015/12/gop-2016-trump.jpeg16-620x412.jpg

Donald Trump will make America white again: “White working-class anxiety” is a dog-whistle for racism
Quote:

One of the recurrent themes of this presidential election so far is a determined belief that Donald Trump is tapping into working class economic anxiety. And given what we know about the Republican party and the subset of American that are attracted to the Trump campaign that’s understandable. As Ronald Brownstein has been reporting in the National Journal for the last several months, Trump’s greatest support comes the ranks of non-college educated working class whites:


Trump is ce­ment­ing a strong blue-col­lar base, while the white-col­lar voters re­l­at­ively more res­ist­ant to him have yet to uni­fy around any single al­tern­at­ive. That dis­par­ity is crit­ic­al be­cause in both the 2008 and 2012 GOP nom­in­a­tion fights, voters with and without a four-year col­lege de­gree each cast al­most ex­actly half of the total primary votes, ac­cord­ing to cu­mu­lat­ive ana­lyses of exit poll res­ults by ABC poll­ster Gary Langer. With the two wings evenly matched in size, Trump’s great­er suc­cess at con­sol­id­at­ing his “brack­et” ex­plains much of his ad­vant­age in the polls.


More at the source, worth reading IMO.

bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 12:29 pm
@McGentrix,
Try Hawkeye10 next time.
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cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 12:51 pm
@revelette2,
Trump the racial bigot chump who attracts the uneducated whites. After a few decades of hiatus, they are now coming out of the woodworks because they again have a spokesperson of Chump's stature. He has Muslim friends? How come?
twuth
 
  -4  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 02:01 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Poor Hawkeye thanks to Robert he is not saying anything on this system currently


Censorship. Progressives love it.

How long will this post last?
revelette2
 
  2  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 03:36 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I don't imagine when he was wheeling and dealing all over the globe he was spouting off about Muslims. I think he talks to his audience and acts and talks accordingly.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 03:52 pm
@revelette2,
It's not only about Muslims; he also disparaged Mexicans as rapists and killers. He will build a wall between the US and Mexico: I also have a lake to sell.
He's a small minded bigot that gets too much media attention.
snood
 
  2  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 04:14 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

It's not only about Muslims; he also disparaged Mexicans as rapists and killers. He will build a wall between the US and Mexico: I also have a lake to sell.
He's a small minded bigot that gets too much media attention.

He's also very comfortable with belittling women.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 04:25 pm
@snood,
Must make the women in his life a bit uncomfortable, but can't speak up or won't.
snood
 
  2  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 04:51 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Must make the women in his life a bit uncomfortable, but can't speak up or won't.


Well, there's also the consideration that they don't want to spoil their ride on the gravy train. He probably has a lot of emotional strings attached to his money. Even his ex-wife Ivana once had to retract some negative things she said about him, probably once she figured out that telling the truth could affect her monthly income.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 22 Dec, 2015 08:29 pm
@twuth,
Hey Hawkeye, how the hell are you? Signed up just today to morn ol hawkeye. Troll. This account screams out for an address check. Robert!!!!
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revelette2
 
  3  
Wed 23 Dec, 2015 09:18 am
Fact check: The 'King of Whoppers' for 2015 is Donald Trump
Quote:

It's been a banner year for political whoppers — and for one teller of tall tales in particular: Donald Trump.

In the 12 years of FactCheck.org's existence, we've never seen his match.

He stands out not only for the sheer number of his factually false claims, but also for his brazen refusals to admit error when proven wrong.

He is by no means the only one telling whoppers, of course. Once again this year there are plenty of politicians, in both parties, who hope voters will swallow their deceptive claims. Hillary Clinton, for one, said she was "transparent" about her use of a private email server, when in fact she wasn't. That was one of the bogus claims she made about her unusual email arrangement while secretary of State.

But Trump topped them all when he claimed to have seen nonexistent television coverage of "thousands and thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey cheering the collapse of the World Trade Center towers on 9/11 — and then topped himself by demanding that fact-checkers apologize for exposing his claim as fantasy. And that's only one example.

Here we've assembled, as we do every year at this time, a generous sampling of the most far-fetched, distorted or downright fallacious claims made during 2015.

In past years, we've not singled out a single claim or a single person, and have left it to readers to judge which whoppers they consider most egregious.

But this year the evidence is overwhelming and, in our judgment, conclusive. So, for the first time, we confer the title "King of Whoppers."



Trump's Falsehoods

We won't get into Trump's controversial policy positions; it's not a fact-checker's role to offer opinions on whether it's a good idea or a bad idea for the federal government to bar Muslims from entering the United States or to kill the families of terrorists, for example. What we focus on here are some of the many cases where he's just wrong on the facts.

We start with his Nov. 21 claim to have watched on television as "thousands and thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey were "cheering" the fall of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. Multiple news organizations and the New Jersey attorney general's office searched for evidence of public celebrations at the time of 9/11 and found none.

"Never happened," former state Attorney General John J. Farmer, a Republican appointee who later served as a senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission, wrote in response to Trump.

In a tweet, Trump demanded an apology, citing as evidence one news story about an alleged incident that was unattributed, unverified and not televised. One of the reporters on that story said he visited the "Jersey City building and neighborhood where the celebrations were purported to have happened," but he could "never verify that report."

And Trump's false claim about "thousands and thousands" of Muslims is just part of a pattern of inflammatory claims with little or no basis in fact. Here are some more — and it's not an exhaustive list.

• Trump boasted that he "predicted Osama bin Laden." Nope. The book Trump published in 2000 mentioned bin Laden once, and predicted nothing about bin Laden's future plans.

• Trump "heard" that Obama is "thinking about signing an executive order where he wants to take your guns away." If so, he misheard. What Obama reportedly considered was requiring large-volume private gun dealers to conduct background checks, not confiscating firearms from those who own them.

• Trump said he "heard" the Obama administration plans to accept 200,000 Syrian refugees — even upping that wildly inaccurate number to 250,000 in another speech. Nope and nope. The number is about 10,000.

• Trump said he got to know Putin "very well" while the two were on CBS' 60 Minutes. Nope. The two men were interviewed separately, in different countries thousands of miles apart.

• Trump claimed his campaign is "100%" self-funded. Nope. At the time, more than 50% of his campaign's funds had come from outside contributors.

• Trump said his tax plan is revenue neutral. Nope. The pro-business Tax Foundation estimated the Trump plan would reduce revenues to the Treasury by more than $10 trillion over 10 years, even assuming his plan would create economic growth.

• Trump told the story of a 2-year-old who got autism a week after the child got a vaccine. But there's no evidence of such a link. The study that claimed to have found a link between vaccines and autism has been exposed as an "elaborate fraud." It was retracted five years ago by the journal that published it, and the author was stripped of his license to practice medicine in Britain.

• Trump said Mexico doesn't have a birthright citizenship policy. It does.

• Trump claimed credit for getting Ford Motor Co. to move a plant from Mexico to Ohio. Ford says that's baloney; it made the decision years before Trump even announced his run for president.

• Trump denied that he ever called female adversaries some of these things: "fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals." He used all of those terms.

• Trump said in June "there are no jobs" to be had, when official statistics were showing 5.4 million job openings — the most in 15 years.

• Trump claimed economic growth in the U.S. has "never" been below zero — until the third quarter of 2015. "Who ever heard of this?" he asked. Except it's not unheard of. Economic growth has been below zero 42 times since 1946.

Trump, Carson on 9/11 'Celebrations,' Nov. 24
Trump's bin Laden 'Prediction,' Dec. 2
Trump 'Hears' Obama Wants to Take Guns, Oct. 22
Trump Gets Refugee Numbers Wrong, Oct. 4
Facts about the Syrian Refugees, Nov. 23
Trump vs. Fiorina: Who Knows Putin Best? Nov. 11
FactChecking the CNBC Debates, Oct. 29
Is Trump's Tax Plan Revenue Neutral? Oct. 1
FactChecking the CNN Republican Debate, Sept. 17
Trump on Birthright Citizenship, Aug. 25
Trump's Bogus Boast on Ford, Oct. 26
Trump's Amnesia, Aug. 11
Trump Tramples Facts, June 16

This is just a sampling of the falsehoods and exaggerations that lead us to award our "King of Whoppers" title to Trump. See our full and up-to-the-minute file on him for more.

bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Wed 23 Dec, 2015 10:14 am
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