McGentrix
 
  0  
Sat 7 Nov, 2015 12:38 am
@hawkeye10,
Lorne Michaels won't tolerate that crap. Neither should anyone else.

Don't like it? Don't watch it.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sat 7 Nov, 2015 06:25 am
@McGentrix,
Near as I can gather there will be 200 people in the audience who were chosen in a lottery during Sep before the guests had been booked. The chances that none of them will disrupt the show in this age where politically motivated incivility is glorified IDK. Usually they fill the no shows with people who turn up that day, I would expect that for this show those people will all be friends and family of the shows cast and crew.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 7 Nov, 2015 06:26 am
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

Lorne Michaels won't tolerate that crap. Neither should anyone else.

Don't like it? Don't watch it.


McG...I think Trump is an ass...but I want to take this opportunity to agree with you completely.

If you do not want to watch Trump hosting SNL...DO NOT WATCH!

The attempt to disrupt the thing is an absurdity...and I suspect Lorne Michaels and Donald Trump are just loving Luke Montgomery and his efforts here.

This has almost insured the program will be one of the most watched SNL programs ever. This is like the Catholic Church putting a movie on its Banned List...making it a sure winner at the box office.

I haven't watched an SNL in 10 years or more...but I will watch tonight. And like I said...I think Trump is an ass!


hawkeye10
 
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Sat 7 Nov, 2015 06:30 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
I haven't watched an SNL in 10 years or more...but I will watch tonight

I have not watched a dozen times in my life, but I too will be watching.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Sat 7 Nov, 2015 07:03 am
What I notice in the pro-tRump crowd:

False-consensus effect

In psychology, the false-consensus effect or false-consensus bias is a cognitive bias whereby a person tends to overestimate the extent to which their beliefs or opinions are typical of those of others. There is a tendency for people to assume that their own opinions, beliefs, preferences, values, and habits are normal and that others also think the same way that they do.[1] This cognitive bias tends to lead to the perception of a consensus that does not exist, a "false consensus". This false consensus is significant because it increases self-esteem. The need to be normal and fit in with other people is underlined by a desire to conform and be liked by others in a social environment.
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McGentrix
 
  1  
Sat 7 Nov, 2015 10:42 am
@Frank Apisa,
That's why you are still listed as one of the good eggs Frank.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sat 7 Nov, 2015 10:47 am
Quote:
New Yorkers were grateful when Donald J. Trump finished ahead of schedule and under budget in renovating the Wollman Memorial Rink, where the city had spent six years and $12 million trying to produce ice.

But even the Trump Organization, which controls a network of real estate developments and management corporations, did not expect to make a profit.

Yesterday, on a wet spring morning that would have been three months from the scheduled completion date if the city had not relinquished the project in Central Park, Mr. Trump announced that he had made a profit.

Closing the ice-skating rink until the fall, Mr. Trump said it had made a profit of about $500,000 on $1.5 million in receipts since re-opening in November. The money will go to several charities and will be used for public works projects. Profit a Pleasant Surprise

The executive vice president of the Trump Organization, Anthony B. Gliedman, who ran the renovation project, said the profit was about $450,000 to $500,000.

But the Parks Commissioner, Henry J. Stern, was more conservative, saying he thought the profit was about $400,000, although neither the Trump Organization nor the city Department of Parks and Recreation have final figures on the number of people who used the rink.

All three did agree that the profit was a pleasant surprise.

According to the Trump Organization, it spent $1 million to operate the skating rink since November. As part of its agreement with the city, besides giving most of its profit to charities and public works projects, the organization will also reimburse the city $50,000 for electricity use. In addition, some of the money will be given to the parks department.

The organization has already set aside $200,000 for three charities in New York City, a public works project and the rink's electric bill.

The remainder will be distributed by the city and the Trump Organization once a total has been made.

''It's so much beyond any expectation,'' said an ebullient Mr. Trump, who had said that he had hoped to just break even or turn a modest profit of about $100,000. ''This is a little different ending than most city stories.''

Mr. Stern agreed that the rink was ''enormously successful.'' Record Admissions

But the Trump Organization still has a lot of negotiating to do with the city if it is to continue to operate the rink. Mr. Gliedman said the two sides are far apart on some key aspects of the proposed concession contract, such as its duration and the fate of the Lasker Rink in Central Park near 103d Street.

The Trump Organization has asked for a 10-year agreement, Mr. Gliedman said, and the city has offered one for 4 years.

Mr. Stern declined yesterday to discuss the negotiations. ''We have a lot of negotiating to do,'' he said.

Mr. Trump took over the project in June 1986 after two city studies had concluded that the renovation was a failure. The city agreed to allow Mr. Trump to take over the project, with both agreeing that all profits would go to public works projects and charities suggested by city officials and approved by Mr. Trump.


http://www.nytimes.com/1987/04/01/nyregion/trump-reports-large-profit-from-wollman-rink.html

Hell of a guy this Trump....

Quote:
Having fallen into utter disrepair during the New York City fiscal crisis, unable to make ice, the city’s Parks Department embarked on a total refurbishment of the facility in 1980, estimating it would take two years to complete. After six years and having flushed $13 million down the drain, the city announced they would have to start all over again and it would another two years to complete. Wollman Rink had quite visibly failed. The Wollman Rink fiasco amplified the public perception of the general incompetence of government and their inability to complete even the simplest projects.
Enter the Donald. In late May of 1986 the 39 year-old Trump made an offer to Mayor Ed Koch. Trump would step in and take over the construction and operation of the project for no profit and have it up and running in time for the holiday season. Koch tried mightily and quite snakily tried to reject Trump’s offer. A very public Trump-Koch feud ensued; Donald ultimately prevailed taking on the responsibility to finish the rink in less than six months for no more than $3 million. The city politicos could only hope that when Donald failed it would divert attention from their own incompetence.

Instead of failing, Trump finished the job in just four months at a final cost 25% below the budget. It wasn’t rocket science according Trump. It was common sense and “management.” But the incident also demonstrated Trump’s mastery and command of public relations and how to attract massive amounts of free press.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/offwhitepapers/2015/08/24/donald-trump-and-the-wollman-rinking-of-american-politics/
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sat 7 Nov, 2015 08:52 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
More than ratings, what the Donald Trump camp wants is media attention. That’s the crux of the campaign. He has become a front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination purely because the media generally has elected to treat everything he does or says as serious news. That’s the one advantage that Donald Trump holds over all of the other candidates. When everything he does is newsworthy, he sucks up all of the media oxygen out of the room, leaving little left for the likes of Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, and other candidates who in a more conventional election cycle probably would have been doing a lot better at this point in the race.

With the caveat that I’m a registered Democrat, I cannot imagine how frustrating this must be for the likes of Chris Christie or Bobby Jindal to see this reality TV star becoming a potentially unbeatable front-runner precisely by doing the kind of things and saying the kind of things that would end a conventional presidential campaign. And by the way, that’s the difference between having Trump host and having almost any other presidential candidate guesting on or hosting the show. Trump is being rewarded not as a leader or a successful businessman but because he attracts media attention and ratings specifically for engaging in the kind of mean, petty, schoolyard bully behavior that is supposed to be discouraged in a civil society.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/11/05/the-only-way-to-protest-donald-trumps-saturday-night-live-is-to-ignore-it/

Can imagine because you clearly have no clue what is going on. But you are right, if you think Trump on SNL is a travesty then do something else with your time, vote with your eyeballs. Me, I will have popcorn and will watch. Maybe free speech haters will riot in the streets, that would be the icing on the cake for trump. the Red State Americans would be talking about that for days, and it would reaffirm that Trump is a heroic American.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sat 7 Nov, 2015 09:28 pm
@McGentrix,
McGentrix wrote:

That's why you are still listed as one of the good eggs Frank.


Just so I don't get listed as too good an egg...

...if I were advising Trump (and Michaels), I'd probably advise him to open the program by announcing to the audience he want to give 'em all a chance to earn $10,000...and have the cameras turn to the audience and ask them ALL to yell out "deport racists" or "Trump is a racist" with photographic evidence that they did. Let them all yell out to their hearts content...with the cameras trained on them.

And then tell the audience he would finance a class action suit against Luke Montgomery demanding the money.

What a gas that would be!
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sat 7 Nov, 2015 09:49 pm
@Frank Apisa,
A promise of Olive Garden $50 gift cards for everyone if the crowd yells "SHUT UP!" to all disruptors should do the trick.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2015 01:08 am
@hawkeye10,
****, I watch so little tv I did not know that my comcast does not show me this in real time. I am a retard.

This sounds great though. The opening was brilliant. No wonder these guys did not want to cancel, they have been thinking about riffin off of Trump for awhile. I can tell that from just 3 press reports.

20 minutes. I am excited!
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2015 02:36 am
@hawkeye10,
Still need to watch about the last 20 minutes but **** YA!

And as soon as we know if it is Hillary or Sanders the winner will be on, and that will be ******* awesome too. The D's cant refuse.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2015 02:47 am
@hawkeye10,
Think the polsters are going to have to go out this week and see how much the needle moved. Between this an the sense that Carson is in melt down mode this is a no brainer. SNL was never going to convince any conservatives except for a few old white guys who decide" we hell if he can take a joke like that he must be OK!" . But 30 and under white guys who have been getting fucked by the system all their lives? Oh ya!

Trump should have fought for something better to connect with women with, I missed some minutes so maybe I missed it but I did not see anything for women Crying or Very sad
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2015 03:05 am
@hawkeye10,
2 hours after it ended Fox News is not even reporting on its webpage. Gotta be a shot across the bow to Trump. Over at Slate they are sniffing that it was just OK, which means it was at least pretty good. We will not know for a week, though I will be looking at what the elite has to say in the morning.

Now I see what he gave women, that was the real Ivanka. No way in hell did I think she would do something like this, she has been acting like she and Chelsea are going to stay out of it to protect their friendship. Guess not. That she is standing up for her dad is huuuuge.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 8 Nov, 2015 06:25 am
The thing I found out last night was that I remembered why I no longer watch SNL.

If there was anything funny that happened...they managed to disguise it.

Good grief...that is one terrible humor show.
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2015 06:55 am
http://i.imgur.com/Ov5zyRi.gif
SNL
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hawkeye10
 
  0  
Sun 8 Nov, 2015 02:25 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
Good grief...that is one terrible humor show.


Lots of crabbing today that it was a not a roast, that is to say lots of confused people who did not know where they were, but to say that SNL sucked at comedy like lots also say seems a stretch to me. I have never watched the show much over the years because it was so unfunny. I routinely went whole sows without laughing. I laughed last night. This cast is certainly a lot better than the cast has been at some points in history.

Still, Trump should have taken my advice and done the monologues in elite speak.
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Sun 8 Nov, 2015 02:55 pm
@hawkeye10,
I dont know how we are going to know other than weekly poll numbers if this worked for Trump. I was thinking that we could look at the drop in rating s from start to finish, but that wont work because the drop could easily be people who were never going to consider voting for him dropping and going to bed once they realized that SNL was not trying to Trump Trump, that this was not a roast, which seems to have been the near universal expectation of the elites on both the left and the right.

This outcome is all off the grid where so many on the Right live. I dont know any way to measure it.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Sun 8 Nov, 2015 06:22 pm
@hawkeye10,
I think there is great hilarity watching these clowns who are tying to pass this off as a ratings disappointment, when according to the overnights we need to go back 77 episodes to find a more popular outing for SNL. If that is not winning at popularity I dont know what is. And lets keep in mind getting ratings is getting more difficult all the time due to the fragmentation of the market, and due to younger people not watching TV at anything close to the rate there elders did as youth. Getting the number of eyeballs that Barkley got Jan 7 2012 is a good deal more difficult now.

Lets wait for the real numbers, which I think now tracks the people who time shifted their viewing and watched this a few days after. like today.
Frank Apisa
 
  2  
Sun 8 Nov, 2015 06:31 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

I think there is great hilarity watching these clowns who are tying to pass this off as a ratings disappointment, when according to the overnights we need to go back 77 episodes to find a more popular outing for SNL. If that is not winning at popularity I dont know what is. And lets keep in mind getting ratings is getting more difficult all the time due to the fragmentation of the market, and due to younger people not watching TV at anything close to the rate there elders did as youth. Getting the number of eyeballs that Barkley got Jan 7 2012 is a good deal more difficult now.

Lets wait for the real numbers, which I think now tracks the people who time shifted their viewing and watched this a few days after. like today.


I did! This morning. I was really beat last night.
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