bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 07:57 am
@snood,
She was always shrill, now she's gotten really, really loud. I can take about twenty seconds of it before I want to hang myself.

How does she work herself into so much anger over things she has the most superficial of knowledge about? She's a prime candidate for Prozac.
snood
 
  2  
Thu 10 Sep, 2015 07:59 am
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

She was always shrill, now she's gotten really, really loud. I can take about twenty seconds of it before I want to hang myself.

How does she work herself into so much anger over things she has the most superficial of knowledge about? She's a prime candidate for Prozac.

Are you talking about Nicole Wallace, or the putative co-host of Morning Joe - Mika Brzezinski? Wallace is never really shrill - just stupid.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 08:01 am
@farmerman,
Quote:
What a maroon!!


Its spelled m-o-r-a-n.

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F0.tqn.com%2Fd%2Fpoliticalhumor%2F1%2F0%2Fn%2FU%2Fmoran.jpg&f=1

http://assets.amuniversal.com/0c4f9ab039ac0133059c005056a9545d.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 08:05 am
http://media.cagle.com/89/2015/09/09/168638_600.jpg
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 08:29 am
New morning Consult poll has Trump down from previous high
Yes, it is Morning Consult, so who knows, but what is different from the CNN poll is that their previous point was 15 days ago rather than one month ago, which suggest the possibility that he has peaked.

Interestingly the two polls are quite similar. It is just that the additional point of data changes the trend.
Morning Consult: Trump 31, Carson 18, Bush 9, Cruz 5
8/31 Trump 38
8/16 Trump 32
8/9 Trump 32
8/3 Trump 25

CNN : Trump 32, Carson 19, Bush 9, Cruz 7
Trump
9/8 32%
8/16 24%
7/ 6 18%

So, fluke or not is something that, I guess, we'll have to wait for future polls to know, but who knows? This would be somewhat of a good news.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 12:09 pm
Jindal calls Trump practically every name in the book

Source: Politico

Bobby Jindal pulled no punches against Donald Trump on Thursday, raining down a deluge of criticisms on the current Republican leader in the polls, calling him "a narcissist," "an egomaniac," "non-serious," "substance-free," "insecure," "weak," "shallow," "unstable," among other knocks.

"Donald Trump is for Donald Trump. He believes in nothing other than himself. He's not for anything, he's not against anything," the governor of Louisiana and Republican presidential candidate told a gathering at the National Press Club in Washington. "Donald Trump is a narcissist and he's an egomaniac. That may sound like a serious charge to make, but everyone knows it to be true."

The danger in Trump's candidacy, Jindal remarked, is that, "ironically," he "could destroy America's chance to be great again."

"I'm putting aside my political mission today," Jindal said, acknowledging his campaign's struggles in the polls but noting that he is doing well in early states like Iowa, where the first caucus is in February.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/bobby-jindal-donald-trump-narcissist-2016-213490#ixzz3lM6WdVmq


"I'm putting aside my political mission today," Good idea, considering how it's going...
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 12:54 pm
In the LA Times today: What's behind Republican voters' support of Trump? Anger at Republicans.
By Mark Z. Barabak


After years of raging against President Obama, unhappy conservatives have a new target for their anger and disgust: the Republicans in Congress.

The GOP seized control of the House in 2010 and four years later took the Senate. Yet even with those majorities, Republican lawmakers have failed to achieve such conservative priorities as rolling back Obamacare, their derisive name for the national healthcare law, or cracking down harder on illegal immigration.

The controversial Keystone XL oil pipeline is no closer to being built – indeed, it may soon be dead – tough antiabortion legislation has languished in the Senate, and a fiercely disputed nuclear deal with Iran seems virtually certain to take effect, despite near-unanimous opposition from Republicans in Congress.

In short, as many see it, the promise of the 2010 tea party movement and its 2014 echo have been dashed on the marble steps of the Capitol.


The rest at the link: http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-trump-congress-20150909-story.html
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 01:10 pm
Regarding Jindal's attack on Trump...

Jindal called Trump “a narcissist,” “an egomaniac,” “non-serious,” “substance-free,” “insecure,” “weak,” “shallow,” “unstable,” among other things.

All the moderators (at the debate) need to ask Jindal is this, "Governor, you've called Trump a narcissistic, substance free, insecure, weak, shallow and unstable man. If he's the GOP nominee will you support him?"

Jindal: "Well, of course."

Trump and everybody else will be laughing there asses off.
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Thu 10 Sep, 2015 01:13 pm
These are the schools driving America’s student loan crisis.

Wonkblog

By Jim Tankersley and Danielle Douglas-Gabriel September 10 at 1:00 PM

In August 2014, network technicians opened a special connection between computers at the federal departments of Education and Treasury. On nights and weekends throughout the month, that connection delivered to Treasury some 46 millions of pieces of information about student borrowers in the United States, including their financial situations when they started and left college, their incomes after school and whether or not they kept up with their loans.

After taking pains to protect the privacy of individual students, Treasury's deputy assistant secretary for tax analysis, Adam Looney, and a Stanford University economics graduate student named Constantine Yannelis began sifting the loan data for patterns. They wanted more information on what many political leaders have dubbed an economic and educational crisis in the United States - a spike in the number of students who have defaulted on their loans in recent years.

“It was just constant amazement," Looney said in an interview. "You see things for the first time. It is very hard to see what’s going on in the loan market from published statistics and what you can find online."

What they saw was less of a national crisis than a very localized one: The surge in defaults was largely concentrated among relatively older, lower-income students who attended for-profit colleges.
....

https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2015/09/LoanChart_0901CZ.png
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hawkeye10
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 01:17 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
All anyone needs to do to put down Jidal is "Sir, let's talk about Louisiana".
bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 01:26 pm
@hawkeye10,
Or Arkansas, or Mississippi, or Missouri, or Kansas, or Oklahoma, or Alabama, or Florida, or Texas. You know: Republican controlled states.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 01:45 pm
Wanna feel sorry for Chris Cuomo?

Take a look at this video of Chris interviewing Donald Trump...on the comment Trump made about Carly Fiorina's face.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/10/politics/donald-trump-carly-fiorina-looks-rolling-stone/



hawkeye10
 
  0  
Thu 10 Sep, 2015 01:50 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Mocking a wealthy elite incompetent is never a bad move.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 02:34 pm
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ehBeth
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 07:56 pm
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/09/bullying-researcher-explains-donald-trump.html

Quote:
It's clear at this point that Donald Trump acts more like a bully than a "traditional" presidential candidate. The current leader in the GOP polls gleefully flouts all of the usual rules of political and social decorum, constantly launching attacks — many of them rather offensive — against both his political rivals and members of the media he believes have treated him unfairly.
<snip>


Part of what's been strange about the trajectory of the campaign so far is that Trump hasn't been punished, in any real sense, for engaging in the sort of behavior that almost everyone agrees is terrible in any setting. Yes, each gross incident is followed by a wave of denunciations, but they don't seem to have an impact — if anything, Trump seems to be gaining popularity by bullying. He's now the first GOP candidate to break 30 percent in the polls. Even non-supporters — the media very much included — seem more transfixed than indignant.


Quote:
This isn't an unusual dynamic in many real-world bullying settings.

So examining Trump's behavior through the lens of bullying research can offer up some insights into how he has been so successful so far, and why his rivals have been unable to knock him down a peg.

Jaana Juvonen, a psychologist at UCLA who is the co-author of a recent literature review and an upcoming book chapter about bullying, said that Trump seems to tick many of the requisite boxes when it comes to how bullies act.

“Not that bullies are a uniform, homogeneous group, but the sort of classic bully is one who is narcissistic, is after power, often charismatic, and therefore popular,” she said. Check, check, check, and check.

But she said there’s an “important and interesting” distinction between being popular and being liked — many bullies may have high status in that their classmates rate them as popular, Juvonen explained, but when individual students are asked if they’d like to spend time with the bully, they respond with resounding nos. This dynamic might help explain some of the personnel shuffling and general chaos that went on in the early days of Trump’s campaign.


<snip>

Quote:
So, given that Trump pretty clearly fits the pattern of a bully, what’s the best move for political rivals hoping to counter him and his hot-tempered rhetoric?

Juvonen said she hasn’t seen much evidence of Trump’s targets unifying to aggressively go after Trump, and that this, too, fits a standard bullying pattern.

“That’s a classic bystander effect — they are No. 1, afraid of their reputation; they are afraid that he will next target them if they criticize him.

And again, in the school context, when we talk about bullying among kids — one of the most effective ways to deal with bullies is that the kids are united.

So in fact, if I were advising the Republican Party I’d say to the other candidates, 'You guys, together, should be shooting Trump down,' since there’s more power in numbers when the bystanders feel like they are not making themselves personally vulnerable by alone criticizing Trump, but if they were more united they would have a chance to deal with him.”

<big snip>


I'd forgotten why I found NYmag political coverage so interesting a few years ago.

Looks like there's some good stuff happening there (again/still?)
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Thu 10 Sep, 2015 08:02 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
It's clear at this point that Donald Trump acts more like a bully than a "traditional" presidential candidate


That is not how he gets read by the most of the Right, to them it comes off as a street fighter, which is very welcome after so long of having elite managed candidates being at least measured and usually sedate. The leftist media continues to read reality poorly, which comes as no shock considering that they missed for years how pissed off the little people are (though those who listen to me knew) , mocking the little people all along the way ("the economy is fine, the numbers say so, you dont know what you are talking about"...nine months into the Great Recession)


"He cant win because he is a bully!". Actually he can win doing this, though I am not convinced that he will. Take a look at his numbers with women after what he has said about women if you dont believe me. Or his numbers with evangelicals after he has said that he does not give a damn about religion.

WAKE THE **** UP!

EDIT: BTW did you notice that Bush is finally taking Trump seriously and is aping his tactics? The elite are starting to open their eyes. You should join them.
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snood
 
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Thu 10 Sep, 2015 08:38 pm
The blithering bloviating ego cloud is going to be on Colbert's show September 22nd. It may be the first time someone gets him to really show his ignorance and unfitness for POTUS. One can hope.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/576612/donald-trump-going-guest-late-show-stephen-colbert
RABEL222
 
  1  
Thu 10 Sep, 2015 08:44 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
What a maroon!!


As are the people backing him and saying they are going to vote for him. What in the hell happened to our educational system that they could send out so many stupid people as educated voters?
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hawkeye10
 
  1  
Thu 10 Sep, 2015 08:44 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

The blithering bloviating ego cloud is going to be on Colbert's show September 22nd. It may be the first time someone gets him to really show his ignorance and unfitness for POTUS. One can hope.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/576612/donald-trump-going-guest-late-show-stephen-colbert

Well Fox news and whole lot of other people have tried that game plan and failed. Maybe. But doubtful.
snood
 
  3  
Thu 10 Sep, 2015 08:50 pm
@hawkeye10,
What Trump policy positions do you agree with?
 

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