ossobucotemp
 
  3  
Sat 13 Aug, 2016 04:09 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
She's so good I can hardly stand it.. I hope the video becomes a classic.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Sat 13 Aug, 2016 06:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Did you hear the latest? Trump is charging that American voters are cheating. ME: He now wants you to vote for him.
cicerone imposter
 
  4  
Sat 13 Aug, 2016 10:58 pm
@cicerone imposter,
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/764670638481084416

Report: Trump's advisers see him as "erratic" and "beyond coaching" http://hill.cm/s6tvjIC

You mean they just found this out? Where have they been this past month?
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 14 Aug, 2016 05:51 am
http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/56526e821b0000270029e57c.jpeg
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bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Sun 14 Aug, 2016 05:54 am
@ossobucotemp,
I'm looking for more of her stuff, she is very good, isn't she?
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Sun 14 Aug, 2016 07:36 am

Donald Trump has woman thrown out of his Connecticut rally who he thinks “looks like Hillary”

By Daily News Bin | August 13, 2016 | 1
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Those wondering why Donald Trump would waste a campaign stop in the firmly blue state of Connecticut, at a time when he’s not even competitive in most swing states, are still left looking for answers after he offered a rally speech which was bizarre even by his standards. There were the half a dozen shout-outs to someone named Linda. There was the prolonged pondering over how the Governor spells his name. There were the insults aimed at the people of Connecticut. But most strangely, there was the woman Trump had thrown out of the rally whom he believed looked like his opponent Hillary Clinton.

According to various attendees who tweeted about their experiences at Saturday evening’s Connecticut event, which was not televised, Donald Trump had a woman thrown out of the event while declaring that “She looks like Hillary.” Some attendees labeled the woman as a protester who was thrown out due to her behavior, while others suggested that she was merely ejected because Trump thought she looked too much like Hillary Clinton. In any case, Trump apparently taunted the woman as she was being dragged out, telling her to say hello to Bill Clinton and accusing her of being there to try to learn how to get crowds as large as his own.

Donald Trump’s celebratory stance toward the woman he thought looked like Hillary Clinton (or perhaps in his rapidly deteriorating mental state he actually thought she was Hillary Clinton) seemed to be completely oblivious to the fact that Hillary is now leading him by a historically wide margin in national polls. Trump appears to be under the delusion that the number of fanatics showing up to his rallies is indicative of how well he’s doing in the election, leaving him unaware that he’s losing so badly, his own party is panic mode.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 05:23 am
http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r589/duadmin/trump-poll_zpslajrq2xu.jpg

Clinton Up Again At 538, Trump's Average Poll Numbers Now In the Mid-30's

This is a complete and utter implosion. I have never seen a candidate that I can remember polling in the mid-30s during the general election. You have to reach back to 1996 to find a major party candidate doing as poorly as Trump is right now. And if you go through the past polls, Trump's position is historic in how bad it is. The only candidates polling this low this late in the election were Bob Dole, Bush in 1992, George McGovern, Humphrey and Goldwater. Trump is now polling among the biggest losers in the last 50 years.
Blickers
 
  4  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 06:57 am
@bobsal u1553115,
It's funny-everybody was worried about Bernie going third party and killing Hillary, and it turns out that Trump is being killed by the Libertarian Johnson. Although I'm sure some of Johnson's votes come from people whose second choice is Hillary, Johnson is an elected Republican who switched parties, (unlike Perot), and you have to think most of his support is Republican. Without Johnson, this thing would be relatively close, (you have to think that without Johnson, a certain percentage of his voters would simply stay home, so you can't just add Johnson's numbers onto Trump's).
izzythepush
 
  2  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 07:05 am
@Blickers,
I dunno, a few Johnson supporters on here are rightwing nutters.
Blickers
 
  2  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 09:05 am
@izzythepush,
True, but I have read a few liberals saying they will give Johnson at least consideration. It's a little tricky deciding who third party voters would vote for if the third party option wasn't there. Republicans wrongly said most Perot voters came from people who otherwise would vote Republican, that turned out not to be the case. Most people assumed all Ralph Nader voters would otherwise vote for Gore, I think some research showed it was actually some would have stayed home, and the rest broke 70-20 for Gore, with a net differential of 50 percent.

But I do think if Johnson and moderate Republican William Weld were not running, Trump would be in significantly better shape, at least for now.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 09:10 am
@Blickers,
Quote:
Trump is being killed by the Libertarian Johnson.


I don't know that the Libertarians are killing tRump as much as they are another nail in the coffin. I do think Johnson represents a first choice to a Hillary Clinton second choice over voting for tRump.

But I have to admit the number of undecided is troubling - up to 20% in some states. Congress will suffer if we can't get those guys to vote in Congressional races even if they won't vote for either tRump or Clinton. I do think the come to Jebus moment in the the voting booth for undecided votes will fall heavily in Hillary Clinton's favor.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 09:12 am
@izzythepush,
The joke in this country is Libertarians are Republicans who want to smoke pot and patronize hookers legally.

Oh yeah, and pay no taxes and leave the uninsured to die of disease, cancer, whatever.
revelette2
 
  1  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 10:04 am
Mark Sanford: I Support You, Donald Trump. Now Release Your Tax Returns.
Quote:

Among Donald J. Trump’s traits is his penchant for internalizing and personalizing things — insults, rejections and even policy disagreements. Trading slights seems essential to his personality, or at least something he feels is necessary for his presidential campaign.

Although it’s not something I feel comfortable with, the bombast of this campaign will not be remembered with the passage of time. Words come and go. The problem is what happens when his words lead him to do things that will reverberate long after the campaign is over.

To him, demands that he release his tax returns are just a ploy by his opponents and enemies to undermine his campaign. But that obstinacy will have consequences. Not releasing his tax returns would hurt transparency in our democratic process, and particularly in how voters evaluate the men and women vying to be our leaders. Whether he wins or loses, that is something our country cannot afford.

I suggest this not as a partisan against Mr. Trump. I am a conservative Republican who, though I have no stomach for his personal style and his penchant for regularly demeaning others, intends to support my party’s nominee because of the importance of filling the existing vacancy on the Supreme Court, and others that might open in the next four years. However, my ability to continue to do so will in part be driven by whether Mr. Trump keeps his word that he will release his tax records.

Let me explain why this issue is so important to me — and, indeed, much bigger than Mr. Trump and the current campaign for the presidency.

For one, it’s not really about his tax records per se. It’s about the American public’s ability to see other candidates’ returns. We have a long precedent in which every major-party presidential candidate since I was a child has released his returns. Break it now, and it stays broken.

The presidency is the most powerful political position on earth, and the idea of enabling the voter the chance to see how a candidate has handled his or her finances is a central part of making sure the right person gets the job. There is a reason a banker wants to see tax returns in determining whether you are eligible for a mortgage. You may talk a good game; tax returns don’t. Mr. Trump knows all this, which is why his team had his running mate, Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana, disclose his tax returns — again, an accepted and expected practice in vetting potential vice-presidential candidates.

In fact, the real issue is not even about presidential tax returns. Rather, it’s about the hundreds of down-ballot races, in states and localities, and the transparency voters deserve here, too. I ran twice for governor of South Carolina, and I released my tax returns both times. To be frank, it felt a bit like a colonoscopy: I didn’t like it, but it was our tradition in South Carolina. The power of staying true to the precedent that had been set prevailed. If presidential candidates won’t release their tax returns, you can expect the same in the states. If a presidential nominee doesn’t do it, why should a candidate for governor?

And it matters in ways that aren’t immediately obvious. I once participated in a debate in Congress on raising the president’s salary. As it turned out, the debate wasn’t really about the president’s earnings in office — modern presidents wind up anything but poor — but instead about the pay scale for federal judges: Their pay was ultimately capped at a fixed range below the president’s, so for judges’ pay to rise, the president’s had to also. It was an important reminder: As with so many things in our country, the standards we set for the president determine what political standards we set for the rest of the country.

Finally, this is about taking Mr. Trump at his own word. He has certainly dodged and hedged on the subject recently, but many other times he has been remarkably clear that he would make his tax returns public. He consistently chided Mitt Romney, the 2012 Republican presidential nominee, for not releasing his returns sooner in his campaign. In May 2014, as Mr. Trump entertained the idea of running for president, he said, on television: “If I decide to run for office, I’ll produce my tax returns, absolutely, and I would love to do that.” Nothing has changed that should justify Mr. Trump’s changing his mind.

A maxim often attributed to Thomas Jefferson holds that “an educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people.” Equipping voters with more, not less, information as they pick those who run for the highest offices in our land seems, to me, a reasonable requirement for anyone aspiring to those positions.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 01:27 pm
@revelette2,
I''m surprised he's not offended by Trump's insult of the Kahn family, women, and the handicapped.
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Builder
 
  1  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 07:50 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
The joke in this country is Libertarians are Republicans who want to smoke pot and patronize hookers legally.

Oh yeah, and pay no taxes and leave the uninsured to die of disease, cancer, whatever.


If you substitute cocaine for pot, you have Wall street, who don't really care who gets the presidency, as long as the money keeps rolling in.
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nacredambition
 
  2  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 10:48 pm
Is Builder the reverse of a chippy on the shoulder?
Builder
 
  2  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 10:51 pm
@nacredambition,
Quote:
Some may contend that Builder is akin to a chippy on the shoulder in reverse.


I'd give that a seven out of ten. Smile
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glitterbag
 
  2  
Mon 15 Aug, 2016 10:58 pm
@nacredambition,
I don't know what a reverse of a chippy on the shoulder is. I just find him tiresome.
izzythepush
 
  3  
Tue 16 Aug, 2016 02:01 am
@glitterbag,
Everything is bigger in America, a whole chip shop one one's shoulder instead of just one chip. Now that's seriously pissed off.
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